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Old 08-02-2007, 05:05 AM
mitsu1775 mitsu1775 is offline
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Default I always feel compelled to call here.......

Hero raises to 3x BB with 2s-9s then some donktard who's running at like 50/40 and pushing every 4th hand thats raised, raises all in for 40+ BBs.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $66.40
BB: $85.30
Hero (UTG): $41.20
MP: $28.50
CO: $53.95
BTN: $55.85

CO posts $0.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $28.50</font>, Hero?

I feel like i make the call here far too often......
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:07 AM
justhetip justhetip is offline
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

If he is pushing every 4th hand call here. If he is pushing every 7th or 8th hand, fold. Your hand does well against the top 25% but poorly against the top 12.5% of hands.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

I usually fold these thinking that I will get a better chance to stack him later on if he pushes as much as you said. Patience.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:21 AM
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I usually fold these thinking that I will get a better chance to stack him later on if he pushes as much as you said. Patience.

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I love what you said here. Every player should read this over and over until it is sketched in their brain. Great post there.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:19 PM
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I usually fold these thinking that I will get a better chance to stack him later on if he pushes as much as you said. Patience.

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I love what you said here. Every player should read this over and over until it is sketched in their brain. Great post there.

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Really, I very much don't.
I insta call this all day long
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

Why arent you fullstacked?

I think calling is marginal. If he does that every 4th hand i'm calling this from time to time, depending on my mood.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:32 PM
skoal2k4 skoal2k4 is offline
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Really, I very much don't.
I insta call this all day long

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I insta fold this all day long. Can you explain to me why you are calling this?

edit: I fold for this reason. Just because some guy is 50/40 and pushing every 4th hand doesn't mean you need to start calling his all-ins with marginal holdings
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:38 PM
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Really, I very much don't.
I insta call this all day long

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I insta fold this all day long. Can you explain to me why you are calling this?

edit: I fold for this reason. Just because some guy is 50/40 and pushing every 4th hand doesn't mean you need to start calling his all-ins with marginal holdings

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I call this all day long becomes I think it is +ev to call thats why
Lets say you are up against the top 20% of hands. Why did I pick this well because I think this is a reasonable range for someone who pushes every 4 hands

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

446,911,344 games 0.005 secs 89,382,268,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.810% 48.40% 00.41% 216287506 1851198.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 51.190% 50.78% 00.41% 226921442 1851198.00 { 8c8s }

So we are ahead, marginal yeah but it is still +ev and that is all that matter
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:03 PM
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cooker i think taking coinflips is not the way to go in cashgames imo. Therefore i think both ways are fine. Neither instacalling nor instafolding is right.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:08 PM
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cooker i think taking coinflips is not the way to go in cashgames imo. Therefore i think both ways are fine. Neither instacalling nor instafolding is right.

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If it's the best play then it is. I don't go around looking for coin flips in cash games like I would if I was playing a tournament but if presented to me in a situation like this then I will take it.
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