.5/1 Weirdish hand, line check w/ AK 4handed

[RiverFenix]

Sometimes I think I am missing potential vb situations that others make. This is one of them. 4 handed and him donking threw me off here. Villain is 37/16/2 over a few hundred. Ive been TAGish. I like flop raise size as if the shorty commits it cuts off possibility of a three bet.


Stack sizes:
UTG: $194.70
UTG+1: $202.75
Hero: $232.20
Button: $36.19
SB: $225.55
BB: $395.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button folds, SB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($89, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($89, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

[tannenj]

i think you missed a street of value. either turn or river; i prefer turn.

[Unknown Soldier]

ez vb on river, rest is good

[orange]

tann,
when you bet the turn for like 60ish, are you folding to a shove?

[Unknown Soldier]

def orange

i think i like a turn bet thinking about it

get value from [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s/K incase another diamond comes on river.

[tannenj]

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tann,
when you bet the turn for like 60ish, are you folding to a shove?

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yes.

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Also I hate a turn bet as it isn't really for value or protection imho.

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i see it as a pure value bet.

[RiverFenix]

Against what Tann, exactly 1-2 hands like KQd KJd? Interested on your thoughts on that.

I really hate investing 100bb by this turn to have to fold to a possible c/r.

[tannenj]

any king really.

my thoughts are that if we check behind turn and he bets river, we're paying off a flush anyway, so we might as well get money in now before another diamond comes and kills our action. i think you can fold safely to a cr.

but i'm very tired right now and have been playing pretty lag recently, so take this with a grain of salt.

[RiverFenix]

How much are we betting on riv? KQ is all I really see calling here but I guess w/o history I shouldnt be expecting a c/r on the riv.

[RiverFenix]

Also I hate a turn bet as it isn't really for value or protection imho. Puts us in a really awkward spot having to most likely fold too if he c/r.