27s: shove any two?

[Jshuttlesworth]

This is the opposite side of a hand I posted a few days ago. What range are u pushing here from the SB if the BB is a random 27 donk? If he is a solid 2p2er? If you would like a specific hand, let's say we have 53o. Thank you.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, HERO???

[rbear]

Your post is confusing... shows hero stack as the BB. Either way, against either opponent, you have 4 or 5 BBs and are not likely to find a better spot. Shove.

[Jshuttlesworth]

sorry.. edited and i also changed our hand

[Kibby]

Random Donk -> ATC
Solid 2+2er -> ATC 8 and higher, any 2 suited connectors and 1 gappers, any 2 connectors 56 and higher or so? I haven't run the numbers but that's about what I'd push with in the moment.

[rbear]

My answer is the same. We have 4 BBs. Pushing after this point into big stacks that are more comfortable calling becomes dangerous, and I really don't think we'll find a better spot. Maybe if it's a 2p2er, they'll recognize this and call lighter, but most likely we'll have live cards [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I say go ahead and shove em in there.

[spacegravy]

The huge majority of players aren't going to exploit pushing any2 here.

[Jshuttlesworth]

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The huge majority of players aren't going to exploit pushing any2 here.

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k thats what i thought, ty SG

[fluorescenthippo]

to quote jason

"yawn"

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[Bubblefish]

Assuming both players think of each other as skilled, I think the equilibrium could serve as some kind of solution. I get close to equilibrium when SB pushes 72% and BB calls 51%. If this is the case then calling with 53o gives an EV of -0,2% according to SNGPT.

[Jshuttlesworth]

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Assuming both players think of each other as skilled, I think the equilibrium could serve as some kind of solution. I get close to equilibrium when SB pushes 72% and BB calls 51%. If this is the case then calling with 53o gives an EV of -0,2% according to SNGPT.

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yes ty i looked at this and got similar numbers... however if BB knows we are pushing any 2 and corrects his call range, pushing 53o becomes even more negEV.
in this case i just think that it is unrealistic that this sort of thinking would be going on, and most randoms at the 27s will be calling like 30% here.