2/5NL Foxwoods yesterday

[boltonflats]

So I'm only at the table an hour or so, but have a fairly good read of most of the players. Like to know some thoughts on this hand and my line and thinking.

Game is 10 handed. Villian is older Asian guy who is a calling station and doesn't lay anthing down. MP1 is an older guy who is terrible, stacked 3 times in last hour. MP2 is younger kid, seems fairly solid and aggressive.

Hero (SB): $1100
Villian (BB) : $1400
MP1: $400
MP2: $600

Hero has 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
MP1 calls
MP2 calls
Hero calls
BB checks
Pot: $20
Flop is 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets $20
BB calls $20
MP1 calls $20
MP2 raises $50 to $70.

[Now my thinking is KJ, QJ, etc, while 2 clubs on board, instead of scaring anyone out, smooth call and go from there. Plus, if BB or MP1 on club draw or straight draw, no matter what I raise to, they will not fold]

Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Pot $300
Turn : K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks
BB checks
MP1 checks
MP2 bets $100

[Ok, now I didn't expect 4 calls to reraise by MP2, good size pot, I'm pretty sure I have the best hand here, I just want to end it]

Hero raises $300 to $400
BB calls $400 [He thought for 1-2 minutes before calling, clearly did not like my raise, ie, wasn't acting]
MP1 folds
MP2 folds [He thought for a good 2-3 minutes before not wanting to fold, again, clearly not acting]

River J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets $400

Thoughts on entire hand??

[GrandMelon]

repop the flop, more on river

[ship_it_trebek]

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Plus, if BB or MP1 on club draw or straight draw, no matter what I raise to, they will not fold

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You want to get money in ahead, so this logic is flawed. Raise the flop if they are never going to fold.

[Albert Moulton]

On the flop, I think you should reraise the younger kid who seems fairly solid and aggressive in MP2. He probably doesn't have JJ, since he would have raised pf, but he might very well have 77, a combo flush/straight draw, two-pair, KcQc, etc. In other words, he might very well go big on this flop right now, but shut down on a club turn unless he has a flush. So, get the money in while you can. Play that flop faster and reraise to $200. If he pushes, then make a read. If he ever does that with anything other than exactly 77, then get it all in on the flop and expect hands like 9cTc pretty often. If he pushes and you think he's the type to only ever push with that stack size with a set, then you might find a fold. But you'd be a better man than I am. I'd probably stack off on this flop if it was set over set.

[bottomset]

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Plus, if BB or MP1 on club draw or straight draw, no matter what I raise to, they will not fold]


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uh get the money in with a big edge then?

[Damntra]

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Plus, if BB or MP1 on club draw or straight draw, no matter what I raise to, they will not fold]


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uh get the money in with a big edge then?

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[onoble]

got to raise flop with this type of field, board and number of people involved.

[AceHigh]

flop is ok, 3-bet is good too.

You have to bet the turn, that King might scare a hand like AJ into checking the turn.

May as well go all in on the river, unless you think you are much more likely to get called by the smaller bet.

You can't fold to a river reraise can you? The pot is huge and you don't have much left behind you.

[RikaKazak]

lol @ "they never fold so I just called logic"

if that's true then pushing would be correct ldo

[rdrr]

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Plus, if BB or MP1 on club draw or straight draw, no matter what I raise to, they will not fold

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I'm pretty sure I have the best hand here, I just want to end it

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