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10-15-2007, 05:24 AM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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Who's roll? Assuming you're an average american and not on the Haliburton board you've got far far more in commmon with the average iraqi than anyone whose "padding their roll" from this hideous circus of rape murder and squalour. In fact those same people are stealing from you as well in the form of increased taxes to pay for the war debt. [/ QUOTE ] Our roll, as in the US government. Most of the dividends would go directly to them. It makes us a wealthier country, helps support our welfare state, and allows educated people to get paper jobs. Although you are right that it's the insiders who are making the most, the corporate and govt high-ups. As far as war debt, I don't mind paying for it if it's worth the investment. 
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#2
10-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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[ QUOTE ] Who's roll? Assuming you're an average american and not on the Haliburton board you've got far far more in commmon with the average iraqi than anyone whose "padding their roll" from this hideous circus of rape murder and squalour. In fact those same people are stealing from you as well in the form of increased taxes to pay for the war debt. [/ QUOTE ] Our roll, as in the US government. Most of the dividends would go directly to them. It makes us a wealthier country, helps support our welfare state, and allows educated people to get paper jobs. Although you are right that it's the insiders who are making the most, the corporate and govt high-ups. As far as war debt, I don't mind paying for it if it's worth the investment. [/ QUOTE ] The war has cost the US government trillions of dollars and returned nothing. No dividends go to the US government to spend on anything you may want them to be spent on. The whole war is a massive transfer of funds away from the US government to a group of politically connected private citizens that you are absolutely not a part of. That was pretty much the purpose of it and it is succeeding fantastically well. It is a smokescreen so people can rob you blind and make themselves fantastically wealthy at your expense. The fact that you're falling for it and think that you're coming off well financially is immensely depressive not to mention that you're willing to sanction the murder rape and pillage of millions of living breathing men women and children for what you perceive as personal gain is so disgusting that I feel like I want to vomit. You are an evil human being and what's worse is you're not actually getting anything out of it you're just justifying those who are stealing from you and wouldn't go out of their way to piss on you if you were on fire.
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#3
10-15-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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[ QUOTE ] Who's roll? Assuming you're an average american and not on the Haliburton board you've got far far more in commmon with the average iraqi than anyone whose "padding their roll" from this hideous circus of rape murder and squalour. In fact those same people are stealing from you as well in the form of increased taxes to pay for the war debt. [/ QUOTE ] Our roll, as in the US government. Most of the dividends would go directly to them. It makes us a wealthier country, helps support our welfare state, and allows educated people to get paper jobs. Although you are right that it's the insiders who are making the most, the corporate and govt high-ups. As far as war debt, I don't mind paying for it if it's worth the investment. [/ QUOTE ] So you mean the war isn't a net drain on taxes? We're making money off of the war? LOL. So why is bush having to ask congress for more money to fund the war? Why isn't he just using these fat revenues to pay for it? Have you ever seen Bill Gates call up the Microsoft shareholders and ask them to give him some more money so they can keep their "profitable" operation running?
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#4
10-15-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw.
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10-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw. [/ QUOTE ] When you say it "has to be benefitting us" who are you including in "us"? Who is the "we" that is getting the results "we" want? Are you a member of congress?
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10-15-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
There are no benefits to this war, at all. They trade with all the freedom loving, rich, non-muslim countries of the west. They even trade with us, even though they hate us. There is no reason to go to war for oil, and besides with all the new technologies, they would rather sell us oil now, than have solar/wind/nuclear come into fashion, and be stuck with all this useless oil.
I can't see how we can ever make up the the trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives this war has cost us.
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#8
10-15-2007, 05:07 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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the US govt, as a collective source of revenue, which then filters it's way back into the corporations that control it. [/ QUOTE ] So you think "the US" is making money off of the war??? Where is this magical revenue coming from, exactly?
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#9
10-15-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
ROI = http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo ... ROI is huge for a fraction of the %1 of the people such as the Military Industrial Complex and the elite. First Afghanistan's natural gas pipeline, then Iraq's oil, next Iran's oil ? How long before Venezuela starts becoming a millitary powerhouse threatnening the US *LAUGHS* and must be invaded for their oil sands which is even greater by just a bit than Alberta's oil sands.
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#10
10-15-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: Iraq spending: ROI?
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The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Canis has had some better arguments than this guy...
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