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Old 11-22-2007, 02:16 AM
bellatrix bellatrix is offline
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why donk flop?

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Equity! Not against button, but against the other two limpers. They usually call one bet. Ok, that plan backfired when button raised

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why bet river?

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Bluff. I have successfully bluffed this guy before and will do it once every 10 hands. He almost folded (which I implied by the "..."). I am known in this game as pretty tight and usually bet it when I have it. I don't bluff calling stations, button is NOT a calling station, he can be put off a hand.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:31 AM
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why donk flop?

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Equity! Not against button, but against the other two limpers. They usually call one bet. Ok, that plan backfired when button raised



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DUCY that plan backfired?

As for tells, he must be pretty good to catch on to that (not looking at the river). I would start doing the 1,2,3 count before every decision. Just count it out in your head, then bet, call, raise or fold. You must do it, even when you know your action. I use it at my home game when I think someone has something on me. They are soon lost again. mmmwahahahah
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:57 AM
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hmm I actually find it very unlikely that you did not look at the river before you bet since you had the nut flush draw...

I really wouldn't worry about giving off too many tells playing live. People are just not that observant. I do try to do the same things every time though. I never look at my cards until it is my turn to act and I always keep a chip on my cards until that time comes. I try to follow the action closely. Yesterday I was in the 5-200 spread game and the BB thought he was UTG and tried to raise to $20. A few people actually noticed, but the CO, BTN, and SB did not. The CO limped, BTN completed (button has a blind in this game), SB completed, and then BB raised.. LOL all 3 grumbled and only thh SB called and folded on the flop. I chuckled a bit. Also before I act, I tend to glimpse at the player to my left. They will sometimes tip their action by holding enough chips for a call or raise.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:11 AM
TimovieMan TimovieMan is offline
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Equity! Not against button, but against the other two limpers. They usually call one bet. Ok, that plan backfired when button raised.

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He's the preflop 3-bettor. What makes you think he's NOT going to raise your bet NOR bet out himself when you check???
This is an obvious check-raise, and that represents the Q even more than just donking, imho.


As far as tells go, some good advice has already been given. Don't look at your cards until it's actually your turn to act, and always give it a few seconds before every action, even if that action is already clear to you...

And the laid back "simply enjoying myself" attitude really works, even against opponents you play regularly. If you're well liked at the table, they'll mind less that they lose to you.

Maybe not a good comparison, but if you've ever watched televised high stakes poker (I know that's NL, but still). Who would you rather lose your chips to and still remain at the table? Daniel "positive attitude" Negreanu or Phil "tilty explosive - even if it's just for show" Helmuth? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:43 AM
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Put me in the camp that advocates checking to the preflop reraiser. Like you said, the limpers will call one bet, but likely not two. So, let's go for a c/r and trap them rather than force them out.

As far as tells, I tend to agree with Bravos. Lots of people don't notice them and, even if they do, they don't use these tells to make a better play. (On one occasion, I check-raised another girl after hitting my straight on the river. After I raised her, she asked "did you hit your straight?" I responded "Yep. I did." She paid off the raise anyway. And while this may not have been my best form, it does illustrate a point; even when you give a sure-fire tell, a lot of people at low stakes tend not to use that tell to their advantage.)
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