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Old 11-11-2007, 05:09 AM
Big bibi Big bibi is offline
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This hand was played my a friend of my and we argued about his play, so we want a second opinion.
10 usd MTT, 15 places till the money.
blinds are 1500/3000, no antes
hero has 55000 chips
action:
EP player goes all in with 20000
next player goes all in with 22000
third player goes all in with 23000

hero calls with KK

I said that this is a sure fold.
What do you think???
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: fold or call

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next player goes all in with 22000
third player goes all in with 23000

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Not w/out a read that at least one of these two guys is a rock.

P.S. You did happen to notice that all of the players AI have ~7BBs...right?

And by rock, I mean rock as in Gibraltar...
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:06 AM
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No I think this is a push for 2 reasons

1.) Most important - you have covered all of them
2.) As erc said, they are down to 7BB, so everyone of them has should have a much wider pushing range than AA.

I'd call this everytime, even against tight players.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: fold or call

With a very strong read on the 3rd player that he doesn't put his chips in there with QQ, I can imagine folding. But (semi)readless I don't expect him to fold QQ there so we're ahead of every persons range & it's a call.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:15 AM
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I can't imagine folding here ever. The third player will not fold AK here often, and also not QQ. The pushing range of the first player is very broad, and the second player is also quite desperate. I call these 8 BB here even with reads that all of them are tight players.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:15 PM
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easy call - I can't lay KK here getting better than 3 to 1 with stack sizes as described in a $10 MTT.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: fold or call

I call and then slam the mouse when an ace hits on the turn.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:39 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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EASY call.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:53 PM
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no...no...no...they are all short enough to be doing this with well worse than aces...easy call with double fistpump
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:54 PM
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I call and then slam the mouse when an ace hits on the turn.

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but the king hits the river and the hero wins right?
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