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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
This isn't about Bonds. This is about defacing a piece of the history that some of us still hold sacred.
As for Ecko not being a prick because the people made the decision, a) The voters only know what a biased media has taught them b) Putting the asterisk on the ball doesn't do a lot of good for anyone, while it upsets people who hold the game the way I do and c) In the end, he's the one who decided to do this with the ball. To those who are saying the hall should refuse it, collecting the memorabilia of the game is what the hall does. They have little choice in the matter. |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
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[ QUOTE ] self-rightous [censored], woulda much rather had the ball launched into space [/ QUOTE ] So Ecko thinks he is better than everyone because he spent $750k on a baseball and then let the world decide what to do with it? Even if this was a PR stunt by Ecko I don't think he deserves the blame. How bout blaming the HOF for excepting a branded ball? [/ QUOTE ] Refusal to accept the ball on those grounds would be go against the mission of the HOF and other historical museums in general, which are to store artifacts for future generations and educate people on the objects and their place in history. Not make political decisions about the worthiness of the objects to be stored. I say this as an archivist, not just someone who once stayed in Holiday Inn Express. KJS |
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[ QUOTE ] then his actions match those of the guy that hit the homer perfectly this is poetic justice <commence Barry apologists now> [/ QUOTE ] Help me understand this. Why should he be persecuted for doing something that everybody else is doing? The current era of baseball is all about the juicers. The hitters are juicing and the pitchers are juicing. It's part of the game, so why should he the take the flak for it? It's the same thing with the Olympics where everybody is all mad that the dude who won the 100m dash is juicing while nobody bats at eye at the fact that #2 to #8 were all juicing also. What&#8217;s the big deal? [/ QUOTE ] the asterik is a mark against the whole era Bonds moreso because it was his jealous vanity after the 96 season when he clearly chose his pathway However, the asterik marks a whole era IMO |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
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This isn't about Bonds. This is about defacing a piece of the history that some of us still hold sacred. As for Ecko not being a prick because the people made the decision, a) The voters only know what a biased media has taught them b) Putting the asterisk on the ball doesn't do a lot of good for anyone, while it upsets people who hold the game the way I do and c) In the end, he's the one who decided to do this with the ball. To those who are saying the hall should refuse it, collecting the memorabilia of the game is what the hall does. They have little choice in the matter. [/ QUOTE ] except for the asterik marks the game you hold sacred it says alot in its meaning this is the era of style over substance it's money pulling all it's off the field stories getting more air time than analysis of the games themselves it's image over everything players have sold out to the highest bidder teams have sold out to make revenue The asterik perfectly marks the tradeoffs the game has made it's beautiful on so many levels it brings a tear to my eye |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
Am I the only one who thinks that having the bat that hit homer would be cooler than having the ball? I mean if you are a Bonds fan, the bat was in the man's hands, and it hit the ball. Bonds never tocuhed that ball, as far as I know.
I'm just thinking that if it was something like having a puck or a stick from a Wayne Gretzky record, I'll take the stick please. |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] then his actions match those of the guy that hit the homer perfectly this is poetic justice <commence Barry apologists now> [/ QUOTE ] Help me understand this. Why should he be persecuted for doing something that everybody else is doing? The current era of baseball is all about the juicers. The hitters are juicing and the pitchers are juicing. It's part of the game, so why should he the take the flak for it? It's the same thing with the Olympics where everybody is all mad that the dude who won the 100m dash is juicing while nobody bats at eye at the fact that #2 to #8 were all juicing also. What’s the big deal? [/ QUOTE ] Cause it's against the rules. [/ QUOTE ] plz to be putting asterisks on roger clemens' records, and anything tom glavine did, and uhh i never much liked craig biggio anyway this just shows how juvenile the average baseball fans is. [/ QUOTE ] FYP |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
MT2R,
Hank Aaron used amphetamines. Should his ball have an asterix on it? |
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MT2R, Hank Aaron used amphetamines. Should his ball have an asterix on it? [/ QUOTE ] seeing how frequently I've used amphetamines, I don't think I can objectively answer this question |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
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MT2R, Hank Aaron used amphetamines. Should his ball have an asterix on it? [/ QUOTE ] I doubt you would run out of fingers counting the 100% clean HOFers |
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Re: The Fate of #756 by Marc Ecko
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[ QUOTE ] This isn't about Bonds. This is about defacing a piece of the history that some of us still hold sacred. As for Ecko not being a prick because the people made the decision, a) The voters only know what a biased media has taught them b) Putting the asterisk on the ball doesn't do a lot of good for anyone, while it upsets people who hold the game the way I do and c) In the end, he's the one who decided to do this with the ball. To those who are saying the hall should refuse it, collecting the memorabilia of the game is what the hall does. They have little choice in the matter. [/ QUOTE ] except for the asterik marks the game you hold sacred it says alot in its meaning this is the era of style over substance it's money pulling all it's off the field stories getting more air time than analysis of the games themselves it's image over everything players have sold out to the highest bidder teams have sold out to make revenue The asterik perfectly marks the tradeoffs the game has made it's beautiful on so many levels it brings a tear to my eye [/ QUOTE ] I feel like you're fighting fire with fire. I understand the premise of your views on modern baseball. But desecrating a piece of history, no matter how foul it appears, is not going to fix anything. Putting the asterisk on the ball embodies all the negative stuff you just wrote out IMO. The information for people is out there and they will make their own choices(choices based on what ESPN says LDO). |
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