Late game strategy, w/examples - Page 4

BarryLyndon · #31 05-31-2007, 02:27 PM

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What is UTG's range for hand1? Anyone pay attention to his stack and his raise size? Do you assume that the second caller in the hand hasn't paid attention to his raise size as well?

Barry

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What are you alluding to here?

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He's alluding to the fact that the UTG+1 raiser has a small stack and that the SB just cold called OOP, instead of folding/raising.

However, I still think this is a pretty clear push since:
a) the table is 6-handed, meaning UTG+1 is basically = hijack
b) UTG+1 has 17 BBs, which is certainly big enough to raise/fold.
c) He raises like 2.3xBB here, which isn't horribly unusual at a later stage.

I'm not giving him credit for having a real hand here without a read/tight PT stats.

The same with SB; he's got a huge stack, and you see a lot of loose calls here. I don't think there's a good enough argument for giving him a monster either.

In short, ship it in, you have FE, and you're not hugely behind a calling range (around 40/60).

Edit: meh, stuck in editing too long [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Yeah, thanks soulman, this is what I was alluding to. I don't like over-posting, but I overthought the problem too much. Maybe it's a leak in my game, but I overplay 77-88; AJ with this stack a little too much. At least I learned something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

RichC. · #32 05-31-2007, 09:11 PM

Ok, lots of replies and great discussion on almost all of the hands. I know a few were pretty easy and others were a bit tougher. None of these hands gave me problem or bothered me in the way i played them, I just tried to find a few interesting hands out a few thousand that might be good late game situations. So, just to kind of wrap things up, or spur further discussion, here are the results:

Hand 1
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t800/t1600
(Ante: t200)
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t72088
UTG+1: t27000
CO: t90690
Button: t55383
SB: t88670
Hero: t30127

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to t3800, CO calls t3800 (pot was t7400), Button folds, SB calls t3000 (pot was t11200), Hero raises all-in t29927, 3 folds.
Uncalled bets: t26127 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t16400

Hand 2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1000/t2000
(Ante: t250)
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t134671
CO: t18250
Button: t85340
SB: t91770
Hero: t33927

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB raises to t4000, Hero raises all-in t33677, SB calls t29677 (pot was t37927).

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t68604, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t68604)

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t68604, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t68604)

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t68604, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t68604)

Results:
Final pot: t68604
SB had AJo and wins

Hand 3
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1500/t3000
(Ante: t400)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t49520
UTG+1: t113406
MP1: t82057
Hero: t37284
MP3: t64757
CO: t138873
Button: t105355
SB: t102375
BB: t80534

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero folds, MP3 raises to t9000, CO folds, Button raises to t28000, 3 folds.
Uncalled bets: t19000 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t26100

Hand 4
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1500/t3000
(Ante: t400)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t113006
UTG+1: t81657
Hero: t36884
MP2: t55357
MP3: t138473
CO: t122055
Button: t100475
SB: t77134
BB: t49120

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to t8000, 6 folds.
Uncalled bets: t5000 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t11100

Hand 5
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t12826
UTG+1: t7825
MP1: t17517
Hero: t6318
MP3: t4433
CO: t3105
Button: t15713
SB: t3176
BB: t8527

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero folds, MP3 raises all-in t4358, 4 folds.
Uncalled bets: t3758 returned to MP3.

Results:
Final pot: t2175

Hand 6

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t6093
UTG+1: t5783
MP1: t4455
MP2: t14888
MP3: t2651
CO: t5827
Button: t13276
SB: t8575
BB: t17892

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero folds, 2 folds, MP2 calls t600 (pot was t1575), 4 folds, 4 folds, BB checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2175, 2 players)
BB bets t600, MP2 raises to t1800, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to MP2.

Results:
Final pot: t3375

Hand 7
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t8231
UTG+1: t18156
MP1: t5815
MP2: t7653
MP3: t16118
CO: t6885
Hero: t4168
SB: t5998
BB: t5920

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, Hero raises all-in t4093, SB folds, BB calls t3493 (pot was t5668).

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t9161, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9161)

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t9161, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9161)

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t9161, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9161)

Results:
Final pot: t9161
Villain had A4o and wins

Hand 8

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t250/t500
(Ante: t50)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t6610
UTG+1: t37666
MP1: t9716
MP2: t13096
MP3: t13915
CO: t4385
Button: t14780
Hero: t10855
BB: t8670

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, MP3 raises all-in t13865, 2 folds, Hero calls all-in t10555, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t3060 returned to MP3.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t12255, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t22560)

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t12255, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t22560)

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t12255, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t22560)

Results:
Final pot: t12255

Villain had AQo and wins