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Old 05-10-2007, 04:52 AM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

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He's never folding. He has an overpair. Call and stack him if you hit.

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If he has sixes with the 6 of clubs we're a favourite to win a showdown... Even against 8s Hero has 44% equity. And it's not true this guy is never folding, he has an aggression factor of a zillion. This hand plays itself for mine, I shove in a flash.

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Dude, it's a 3-bet pot. Guy doesn't have sixes, or 8s.

He has a set or TT+, we are not a favorite, and he's practically never folding.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

whats your image and do you think villain has noticed?
if its tight, then I'd push it here. your representing a big PP, so why not continue to do so. your 150 BBs deep, so the push is a PSB.
if its loose and bad, then I would just call and see a turn.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

This isn't a very good flop for c-betting imo. Ax hands have more motivation to play sherrif cuz they see a gutshot now. I think your hand is pretty disguised if you hit. I would check flop and decide whether I'll c/r or not depending on how i interpreted a bet. If it goes check check I'm betting pretty much every turn except like non club fives and maybe aces.
As played I call. I don't think I'm getting it in with much equity if i'm called on the flop so only push if he's bluffing a significant amount of the time. The price you're getting is good enough where i think its ok to just call, and shut down if you don't hit.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:14 AM
BigJimSlade BigJimSlade is offline
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

Calling seems like the worst option to me, i'd say it's shove or fold. From the pf action i'd say villain has a pp <TT, and from his ridiculous AF I think he could pull this move with any of those pp's.

I think you have some FE, shove.
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Old 05-10-2007, 09:31 AM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

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He's never folding. He has an overpair. Call and stack him if you hit.

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You have almost no fold equity here. Call.

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This is true. He raised pf, called a rrz, and c/r'd your flop. He will never fold and you don't have flush odds to get it all in. Just call.

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Villain didn't raise preflop.

He has an aggression factor of 20.

I think everyone who says there is no fold equity here is crazy.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:09 AM
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call and peel (redic. good odds and like zero FE)
if you miss you can still C/f.

Also, I'm curious if villain on the button is stealing a ton over a decent sample size, or he folds to 3 bets a ton... b/c if he isn't, i really don't like the squeeze preflop. especially since he can call with a semi-wide range for implied odds since ur both 150BB deep.

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button is a passive TAG over 500 hands, stats like 20/13/1.5. i don't really worry too much about SB being able to profitably call the squeeze with implied odds b/c his implieds against my range are pretty terrible. it's not like i'm stacking off 150 BBs on a 965 board.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Squeezed Light and Flopped a Draw

agree with michaelson. villain likes to make plays/be a donk etc., he can def. be taking a stab here and folding when we push. maybe he thinks we're squeezing or maybe he's trying to 'see where he's at'. i'm shoving this flop 100% if i'm betting it. i think there are arguments for checking the flop tho which have been said.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:15 AM
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I don't like the CB against this opponent. You're pretty much guaranteed to get check-raised. I'd rather check the flop behind.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:18 AM
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I don't like the CB against this opponent. You're pretty much guaranteed to get check-raised. I'd rather check the flop behind.

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Agreed.

Also, sorry to hijack, but what do we do here with AA? Shove here, or wait to shove turn?
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