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Old 07-17-2007, 02:37 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - deep with KK on cooordinated flop line

I don't see why you would raise that much more pre-flop. You don't want to completely discourage action...
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:40 PM
HojoMofo HojoMofo is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - deep with KK on cooordinated flop line

raising to 5 preflop encourages action later in the hand DUCY?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - deep with KK on cooordinated flop line

I get what your saying but this oponents stats imply he is a TAG bloating the pot preflop alows villian to play perfectly either folding pre or stacking us when he his his set. I like this more agianst a LP or LAG player.

As for the hand I think pre and flop are good I dont see why you want to pot commit your self by rasing more on the flop? What hands is he 4/bet pushing that we realy want to call? AT-AKc is the best case and thats not all that great.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:39 PM
Prodigy54321 Prodigy54321 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - deep with KK on cooordinated flop line

you guys are confusing the hell out of me with preflop raise suggestions...

this 3bet is my standard 3bet..I suppose I could raise more with AA and KK and what not, but I can't be doing that with every 3bet..I would think that people would pretty easily get the picture that a smallish 3bet is just restealing while a big 3bet means a monster...

as for raising less...I can't see why I would want to 3bet to give the original raiser better than 2:1
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - deep with KK on cooordinated flop line

prodigy, your 3bet is fine.

however, your flop raise is not.

pot is roughly 12 and you bet 15, villain has to call 10 into a 27 pot.

That's why I said I would raise flop to 22, which would give villain 34/17 almost 2:1.
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