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Old 11-25-2007, 06:15 AM
teh_minbet_pokr teh_minbet_pokr is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - odds to call, but should I repop?

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Is this a spot where I should normally just call given the odds, or should I repop hoping a call

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Having overs + NFD plays very well vs an overpair (47.5% vs KK etc and you are a favorite vs QQ). Vs. 2 pair you still have 34% equity, and vs top set you are 26%.

4 bet his mini raise and be happy when you get it in.

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I think 4-betting Villain's flop min-checkraise is an option, but I think we're being super-optimistic about his range if we're hoping for a call.

Aside from lower flush draws, I can't think of any non-bluff hands we'd want Villain to call with. The pot's far from empty.

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i agree, but i think other flush draws are a large enough part of villains range for this to be a +EV spot for a big 4bet/getting all in.

min raising this flop with any made hand(set, 2pair, str8, overpair) is extremely bad imo, so it is tough for me to put them on such a hand.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:25 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - odds to call, but should I repop?

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min raising this flop with any made hand(set, 2pair, str8, overpair) is extremely bad imo, so it is tough for me to put them on such a hand.

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But, damn, it's like a donk-standard slowplay!

The games have seemed to me to be getting bluffier in recent months (on Stars, anyway), but at the same time I'm still wary when I get flop min-checkraised. It's not always a monster, of course, and perhaps it isn't even usually one, but it sure as hell is a decent chunk of the time.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - odds to call, but should I repop?

On Prima the mini-checkraise is a mix between I have the nuts and a blocker/feeler bet.

My main point is that even if you are called, your equity is pretty strong even vs the worst case scenario of hands. And the villain doesn't necessarily have to have a monster in order to mini-checkraise.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:36 AM
teh_minbet_pokr teh_minbet_pokr is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - odds to call, but should I repop?

i think any relevant reads (stats, prior history, anything you've noticed so far) on the villain are of significant importance for interpreting range here.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - odds to call, but should I repop?

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i think any relevant reads (stats, prior history, anything you've noticed so far) on the villain are of significant importance for interpreting range here.

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Yeah, I agree with this. We are making readless guesses here, which is a useful exercise in trying to determine how to play the hand versus someone who's unknown beyond the fact that he plays at a certain limit on a certain site. But it is better, of course, if at the table you have some notion beyond just that of how your opponent plays.
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