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Old 10-16-2007, 11:23 PM
stinkypete stinkypete is offline
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Default Re: Jump for joy or vomit? 1/2

i can't decide between raising now and raising a nice river card. either way you can fold to a 3-bet. i'd probably lean toward raising the river, but i think if you do that there's a slightly higher chance he value 3-towns a non-flush hand, making you fold the winner, so it's close.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:23 AM
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"there's a slightly higher chance he value 3-towns a non-flush hand, making you fold the winner, so it's close."

since when is zero higher than zero? maybe you missed the opponent is kms

your very likely beat here sean, i think raise-fold the turn is your best play and flat out fold the turn is a close second.

in fact the more i think about it, about 15 seconds more, the bottom line is youre just staring A8h or QJh in the face here every single time. please promptly fold the turn.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:13 AM
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meh i've seen kms get out of line. but maybe that was an isolated incident.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:37 PM
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KMS is a very tough player. Because of this, it's tricky to put him on an exact hand, but you're in good shape, on average since the pot is already so big. In other words, you CAN'T ever fold against him here. Just call the thing down, regardless of what comes. You'll be surprised how often you end up winning.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Jump for joy or vomit? 1/2

How is raise fold superior to call call in this situation? Especially if he sometimes only calls with a non-nut flush?
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:01 PM
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How is raise fold superior to call call in this situation? Especially if he sometimes only calls with a non-nut flush?

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because we win 3 bets when ahead and lose 2 when behind (I seriously doubt this guy doesn't 3-bet with non-nut flush hands).
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:45 AM
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You win this pot exactly 0% of the time. Fold.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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i think i like calling down not b/c i think we're behind always but because it may gain you an extra bet when he decides he'll bet into you w/ a big 2nd best hand but fold to a raise..

i think folding is pretty bad btw
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:46 PM
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Yeah it looks like he's willing to bet-fold.
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