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07-28-2007, 12:52 PM
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That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
The K door card is likely either retarded or rolled up. Cards are surprisingly live, but I really hate this type of hand when the pot gets big on early streets. Should I still try to slither in or should I just avoid the headache that can ensue here? A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a reasonable player so his limp here is somewhat perplexing and he could quite likely have started better 3 flush than me already.
7 Card Stud High-Low ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter) 3rd Street - (1.17 SB) Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 
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#2
07-28-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
My quick Bayesian analysis reveals that it is about 17 times more likely that the King is clueless than it is that he is rolled-up. You're probably looking at a weakish three-card low (or something worse) and split Kings. Your hand is pretty live, and it's relatively cheap. I call here and like it.
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#3
07-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
Don't pick at scabs unless you want a scar!
The playability of hands like this is just terrible if one of the other lows starts catching gooood and you catch a 'good' card like an offsuit Q or something.
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#4
07-28-2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
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Don't pick at scabs unless you want a scar! The playability of hands like this is just terrible if one of the other lows starts catching gooood and you catch a 'good' card like an offsuit Q or something. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is my biggest fear with these sort of hands. I always wonder if I'm missing something when I throw them away time after time, but so often when I get involved with them I find myself picking up just enough that I think I need to keep going and by 7th street I've put in god knows how many bets with a hand that I didn't even want to play in the first place.
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#5
08-02-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
That's one of the easiest folds of the year. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#6
08-02-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
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That's one of the easiest folds of the year. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly how I see it. Patty
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#7
08-03-2007, 06:22 AM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
I definitely fold this as well. You are trying to catch two cards to win half the pot.
I don't see why the K has to be clueless, wouldn't you raise split K here after the A merely called?
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#9
08-03-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: That\'s a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E
I wouldn't even really think about calling this. You're cold-calling two bets trying to draw to a hand that will often only win half even when you hit.
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