Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > General Poker Discussion > Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 05-10-2007, 07:51 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: FT
Posts: 8,202
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

Great post OP.

[ QUOTE ]
you can't worry about overquads when you have quads.

[/ QUOTE ]
So true.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-10-2007, 07:59 PM
Twoool Twoool is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 20
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

I know man, with that action I thought he had JJ or 22 for sure. I guess I'm not good enough to make that laydown yet. Luckily it worked out for me this time!
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-10-2007, 08:26 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Writing the shortstack manifesto
Posts: 3,258
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

Classic fish play 9/10 times you will see 22 here.
It's just like Sklansky says, 100bb is just too much to risk with the second nuts, especially when you're playing with an invisible ante.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-10-2007, 08:27 PM
lucktard lucktard is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: writing in poop upon the wall of toads
Posts: 153
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

[ QUOTE ]
Great post OP.

[ QUOTE ]
you can't worry about overquads when you have quads.

[/ QUOTE ]
So true.

[/ QUOTE ]

As a rule of thumb, yes this is good. But like so many situations in poker, the only absolutely correct answer to "should i fold my quads in case he has overquads here?" is "it depends".

While the situations when it's correct to do so are rare, having the discipline to lay down quads when "you know you're beat" is what separates the good players from the truly great, and will probably greatly increase your win rate.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-10-2007, 08:44 PM
mixmastered mixmastered is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Coventry, UK
Posts: 119
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

I think OP advocates playing a much loser style of unlimited no limit hold them than i'd feel comfortable playing.

Personally, i never play cash games unless we're all 234574363432 BBs deep, and only ever see the flop with hands where i can do some straight-flush mining.

We've all been felted when our quads run into straight flushes, and that's why i've adjusted in this way to the new world of hold 'em.

Drawing to quads is just a recipe for disaster.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Paul B. Paul B. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Thailand soon?
Posts: 5,160
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

[ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]

this is awesome
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:28 PM
jkkkk jkkkk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: being run over
Posts: 4,454
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

best theory post on 2p2, keep on farming.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-11-2007, 12:10 AM
ddubois ddubois is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Ewa Beach, HI
Posts: 3,647
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

[ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$5/$10 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

acold2eyes: $617.25
browerkid: $1,037.00
FRUCKOFF: $1,054.00
cosmicpoker: $1,751.25
<font color="black">Hero: $1,484.00</font>
<font color="black">Hart_Foundation: $1,199.00</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
FRUCKOFF folds, cosmicpoker folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">Hart_Foundation raises to $120.00</font>, acold2eyes folds, browerkid folds, Hero calls $85.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($255) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, Hart_Foundation checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($255) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Hart_Foundation bets $195.00</font>, Hero calls $195.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($645) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $425.00</font>, <font color="red">Hart_Foundation raises all-in to $884.00</font>, Hero calls $459.00

Pot Size: $2,413.00 ($3 Rake)

Hart_Foundation had 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight high) and LOST (-$1,199.00)
Hero had 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Tens) and WON (+$1,211.00)

lol runnerrunnerments!~
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-11-2007, 01:00 AM
Squareview Squareview is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: enigma sippin LEAN
Posts: 2,047
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

85% sure she is serious. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-11-2007, 05:30 AM
TIEdup14 TIEdup14 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,880
Default Re: Top Set Mining (TSM)

I thought set mining was a myth
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.