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Old 12-09-2006, 01:22 PM
Silverback Silverback is offline
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Default AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

Villian is 21/16 fairly high aggression factor, especially on flop and turn, 5 on the flop, over say 300 hands,

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>,

What do you think to the 3 bet?
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

u bettin a blank turn or cking behind for the freecard? u betting a heart turn?

can he fold a pair to ur added aggression?
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

Ill take free card on turn if a blank.

I would most bet a heart on the turn.

I think he could fold a pair if he puts my aggressive play on a much bigger hand, which is what players like him might have me on.
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

well if ur freecarding the turn on a blank he cant let go of a pair hand puttin u on a big pair or something, and hes never folding to the 3bet after the cr hes definately seeing the next card so theres a bit of a conflict in ur plan. is the 3bet to show strength and get a fold or a straight up "well he cr'd, my best play now is to 3bet and freecard"? it cant be both.

id def bet a heart turn, but i think if im 3bettin here im bettin the turn against an opponent i think can laydown vs shown strength from a good tag or else im just peeling to the cr and folding UI, u could be reverse dominated remember so the freecard play with roughly 4 outs potentially isnt great assuming everytime u do it and miss he bets and u fold and lose the whole pot. I assume ur not 3bettin freecarding and calling a river donk on this board.
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

I 3 bet to get him to fold now on flop, on this board I don't put him on many strong holdings.
If he has a big hand he will either cap flop, bet the turn or maybe call 3 bet and go for a check raise. I dont want to force my AK any further.

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I assume ur not 3bettin freecarding and calling a river donk on this board.
No i fold to a river donk UI.
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Old 12-09-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

I'm 3-betting flop, betting turn for value versus this particular opponent.
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

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I'm 3-betting flop, betting turn for value versus this particular opponent.

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How many outs do you need for this to be a turn value bet?

I'm missing value bets like this which is why Id like clarification.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: AK overcards on flop, facing check raise

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I'm 3-betting flop, betting turn for value versus this particular opponent.

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How many outs do you need for this to be a turn value bet?

I'm missing value bets like this which is why Id like clarification.

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Way more than 6, less than 41.
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