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4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
Villain is 24/23/3.27 over 800 hands and has been 3betting light from the button. Have a note on him saying he 3bet's light in position
Hero is UTG+1 Thoughts on 4betting JJ with intention to fold to a shove pre? (imo he will shove AA, KK, QQ and probably AK) If you like the 4bet, hows the betsizing? Or do you like a cold call more? On the flop: Push? C/R AI? C/F? No IQ poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($201.75)</font> SB ($39.30) BB ($221.00) UTG ($100.00) UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($104.50)</font> Hero/UTG+1 is dealt Js Jd Preflop: , 1 fold, Hero raises to 4.00, Button raises to 12.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to 30.00, Button calls 22.00. Flop (69.50) K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero? Thoughts appreciated, sorry for crappy converter |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
Are u saying that he will push the hands listed or is he capable of flat calling with them too? As a standard line id be c/f this flop, seems weak i suppose but if u bet your commited and your not going to be in good shape if the money goes in. Id have reraised more pre, prob to around $38.
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
imo he wont flat AK or QQ, and ive never seen him flat AA or KK but doesnt mean it cant happen.
C/f is pretty weak tight isnt it? |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
Tbh i wouldnt have folded to a shove, his range is too much AK when he shoves.
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
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Tbh i wouldnt have folded to a shove, his range is too much AK when he shoves. [/ QUOTE ] You realize we beat AK PF right? *misread the post...nevermind. |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
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[ QUOTE ] Tbh i wouldnt have folded to a shove, his range is too much AK when he shoves. [/ QUOTE ] You realize we beat AK PF right? [/ QUOTE ] yes. hence not folding, im not sure we have that much eqity though, pretty sure we cant assume he's pushing AK every time. FWIW this is my first 4bet on this table |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
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imo he wont flat AK or QQ, and ive never seen him flat AA or KK but doesnt mean it cant happen. C/f is pretty weak tight isnt it? [/ QUOTE ] well you cant really b/f, c/f is slightly better than c/c but not by much -- i dont 4bet this PF very often, it would have to be against a maniac to make it optimal i think |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
Say we CC his flop bet, then it becomes an easy bet/fold?
Also, shouldnt he be bluffing this flop with basically whatever he got here with, and how many K's are in his range? |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
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Say we CC his flop bet, then it becomes an easy bet/fold? Also, shouldnt he be bluffing this flop with basically whatever he got here with, and how many K's are in his range? [/ QUOTE ] If we c/c the flop, all the money is in the pot. |
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Re: 4bet JJ OOP against agressive button
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Thoughts on 4betting JJ with intention to fold to a shove pre? [/ QUOTE ] gross u wanna 4bet hands your comfortable either snapcalling a shove or instafolding. folding JJ if he's gonna be shoving AK is a huge boof |
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