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Old 11-10-2007, 04:09 PM
legend42 legend42 is offline
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Default Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)

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no.. what i am saying is that gold believes he has the best hand at that moment. i is aware that his flush is vulnerable.

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I have no idea why you would think Doyle would ever have AxQs there. Explain how that makes any sense based on his pre-flop, flop, and turn action.

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the way i see it, gold did not want doyle to call his raise. he wanted the fold and to take down the pot.

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No, he was just thinking that he made his flush, and was going to get money in the pot, and try to make it look like a bluff. Not much beyond that. Which is what had Doyle a bit confused.

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yet he did not want to simply call doyle, or min raise him (or a little more like 75k). if he had the nut flush he would have surely done one of these things.

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I'm pretty sure you're wrong there also. He would have played the nut flush the exact same way. They have $500K stacks, and Jamie just made what looks like to him like a monster. Of course he's going to pump it.

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i believe that you are right. yet, i think that if doyle had taken more time (if it is to believed that there wasn't a chunk of time edited out of the broadcast where doyle actually did spend some time thinking) that he may have reasoned it out that gold was not very strong with his raise.

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Yeah, he might have sniffed it out. But like I said before, QsTs (and to a lesser extent JsTs) are such huge possibilities for Doyle, and Jamie was so cocky he didn't seem worried about them at all. Which made him think the kid must have the Qs. I'm sure he considered the possibility of a lower flush, but wasn't willing to put $100K in when his read had him drawing dead.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)

One thing I would like see is, at the end of the session, when Jamie told Doyle what he had (like he promised to do after the hand):

Doyle: "So what'd you have on that one, Jamie?"

Jamie: "I had the flush"

Doyle: "I know you had the flush, you little pissant. How goddamn HIGH was it?"

Jamie: "Umm, I don't really remember. 8 or 9, maybe?"

Doyle pukes in the kid's bowl of blueberries...
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)

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no.. what i am saying is that gold believes he has the best hand at that moment. i is aware that his flush is vulnerable.

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I have no idea why you would think Doyle would ever have AxQs there. Explain how that makes any sense based on his pre-flop, flop, and turn action.


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is it truly beyond your grasp to believe doyle capable of limping with AQo? have you not watched the prior 3 seasons.

god, i love weak tight internits... they watch while everyone else plays. then when they go busto with AK vs someone elses 89s they storm away crying about how bad everyone else plays. and how they can't wait to get home to their dual 30" monitors.

after they leave.. everyone laughs.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:44 PM
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is it truly beyond your grasp to believe doyle capable of limping with AQo? have you not watched the prior 3 seasons.

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Yes, I have. It's not just the limp, it's the flop lead into a big field with nothing but a gutshot Broadway, and it's the turn overbet after both draws got there. Sure it's a possible, but to think Doyle has AxQs even 5% of the time there, much less to base an analysis on that assumption, is pretty absurd.

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god, i love weak tight internits... they watch while everyone else plays. then when they go busto with AK vs someone elses 89s they storm away crying about how bad everyone else plays. and how they can't wait to get home to their dual 30" monitors.

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I have no idea what this paragraph has to do with anything. I'm primarily a live player (and TV viewer, of course). Doyle does not play AxQs that way.

I will concede Doyle gave Jamie too much credit. But whatever, let's move on. Looking forward to tonight's show...
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