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Old 05-27-2007, 08:20 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

Villain in this hand is pretty donkish(40/12), and maybe tilting. I haven't really seen him bluff, but he doesn't really push his huge hands either. Am i crazy for wanting to call here, or is this just the wrong board to do it?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $208.20
BB: $310.55
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $205.50</font>
BTN: $458.10

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BTN calls $7.00, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($22) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, BTN calls $18.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($58) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $200.00</font>, [i]Hero ?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

i'd never call on that board without having seen him do that with crap before.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

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i'd never call on that board without having seen him do that with crap before.

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Even with the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? I'd call.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

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i'd never call on that board without having seen him do that with crap before.

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Even with the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? I'd call.

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I just ran the numbers on a made flush ... we're in bad shape here.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

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i'd never call on that board without having seen him do that with crap before.

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It's not so much that i've seen him do it before, its that i haven't seen him do this with his monsters. He makes more value sized bets, so i figure he either has a complete bluff with what he thinks are semi bluff outs, like TT with the Th or something, or else he's got a medium strength hand like a 2 pair or straight that has me drawing slim. It's a weird line to take for a huge hand.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

i think you should have bet the turn and not just because the odds would be more compelling and we'd avoid this spot - i think it's most +ev against fish in these spots.

if we can throw two pair or sets into his range this might be a call...i doubt this is ever a stone bluff and if it's a semibluff it's pretty much only 76
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: AA: Villain pushes 4x pot, i wanna call

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i'd never call on that board without having seen him do that with crap before.

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It's not so much that i've seen him do it before, its that i haven't seen him do this with his monsters. He makes more value sized bets, so i figure he either has a complete bluff with what he thinks are semi bluff outs, like TT with the Th or something, or else he's got a medium strength hand like a 2 pair or straight that has me drawing slim. It's a weird line to take for a huge hand.

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It's a weird, not to say very bad, line to take as a bluff too. But i tend to rather give huuuge overbets respect.
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