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Old 11-12-2007, 01:42 PM
BigZag BigZag is offline
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Default AA 4-way with horrific flop.

Bicycle Casino, $2/$3 NL Holdem, Cash Game, 9 Players

MP - $120
CO - $100
Hero (SB) - $140
BB - $230

Pre Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Dealt to Hero (SB)

MP limps, CO Limps, Hero raises to $25

BB calls, MP calls, CO calls

The table had been playing very loose, with many oversized pre-flop raises. BB played practically every hand.

Flop: ($100) J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero???

Reads: BB is a complete maniac, he could have any two cards here. He's also very drunk...CO is pretty solid, I put him on a hand like j9j10,q9,q10 etc.

Is check folding an option here?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:45 PM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

i think bet folding and continuing carefully if called is better
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

Given the pot size, I'm assuming there are 4 to the flop.

That is a horrific flop. Check/folding is a valid option. Shoving is also a valid option, given the pot size and remaining stack sizes. Either seems neutral EV to me.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:47 PM
SlowRoll SlowRoll is offline
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

How can put CO on that kind of hand? If he is solid and he limps, i would say he most likely have a small PP.

Anyway, since stacks are so small (wtf is this standard), just bet-call or push.

In this game, when effective stacks are so small, i would never worry about folding an overpair.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:48 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

lol at folding
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

Fgators gimmick?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:56 PM
BigZag BigZag is offline
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

Yes the stacks are tiny. This was a relatively new table maybe 45 mins old. Everyone must buy in for $100 and if you fall below 50 you can buy in for a total of $150, it's really stupid...

And why lol at folding Jay?

Is it just a standard shove or check shove?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

open shove obviously.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:59 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

We gonna go in for 50bbs here.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: AA 4-way with horrific flop.

lol we had 50BB to start the hand, we 3bet w/ AA

shove shove
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