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Old 11-19-2007, 04:36 AM
AlexKP AlexKP is offline
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Default PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

No reads, b2b = 2* BI, I sat down because the bigstack is an unknown. On the river he pushes in like 1 sec.

What do U think we should do and how do u like the way I played the hand?


Game # 686415932 - Omaha High Pot Limit EUR 3/6 - Table "Husavik"

Players(max 6):
K1Lube (EUR 4,478.55 in seat 4)
Hero (EUR 1,200.00 in seat 5)
luomoombra (EUR 309.90 in seat 6)

Dealer: luomoombra
Small Blind: K1Lube (3.00)
Big Blind: Hero (6.00)

Hero was dealt: 2[d] - 4[d] - J[h] - J[d]

luomoombra Fold
K1Lube Raise (15.00)
Hero Call (12.00)

Flop 3[d] - T[s] - 8[d]

K1Lube Bet (36.00)
Hero Call (36.00)

Turn 3[d] - T[s] - 8[d] - 9[h]

K1Lube Bet (108.00)
Hero Raise (432.00)
K1Lube Call (324.00)

River 3[d] - T[s] - 8[d] - 9[h] - 6[d]

K1Lube Bet (972.00)
Hero ????
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:46 AM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

Looks like a fold on the river.
I'm not a huge fan of preflop, which leads to meh flop and turn spots, on the flop its just some dirty outs. Difficult spot now knowing how aggressive the big stack is.
And turn its prolly closer to fold than call/raise since he is an unknown.
Dont get me wrong I can see why you played the hand the way you did. Its just that early on you might want to stick to abc for a while to establish and pick up something before putting yourself in difficult marginal spots. Right?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:48 AM
Bigdaddydvo Bigdaddydvo is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

Why are you raising this turn...an unorthodox semi-bluff w/a weak draw or are you representing a made straight?

As played, call the river.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:14 AM
TheBjerre TheBjerre is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

turn raise is good.. actuelly pretty std..
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:15 AM
TheBjerre TheBjerre is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

btw i fold river.. without any better reads
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:42 AM
ColdDecker333 ColdDecker333 is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

I call without reads always. When you have 3 diamonds, this is almost always naked ace bluff and you get great pot odds. I put villain on a set + naked ace or a low-end straight + naked ace.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

I like the way you played this. Sometimes I raise the flop to 'find out where you are' (more just to get some more $ in where we have a perceived edge). I love the turn raise. On the river, given we've raised the turn, we almost have to call readless.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:50 AM
mixmastermattyk mixmastermattyk is offline
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

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I call without reads always. When you have 3 diamonds, this is almost always naked ace bluff and you get great pot odds. I put villain on a set + naked ace or a low-end straight + naked ace.

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I'm not sure of your logic of why this is almost always a naked ace bluff. Is it a math thing? If so could you please explain it to me - I feel kind of stupid. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I love the turn raise, although I'm not sure about the river. What specific hands is villain calling that turn raise and then pushing river with? The most obvious hands that come to mind are something like NFD + maybe 2 pair or something or naked ace + set. The bare straight is also an option if opponent isn't going to three-bet that with the risk of being freerolled in a 400BB pot, which seems very possible.

I guess if we don't have any reads, I think it largely comes down to what the 'standard' range of an unknown calling the turn raise is.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:50 AM
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turn raise is good.. actuelly pretty std..

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Please explain, as I'm still not sure what it accomplishes.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: PLO 3/6, semi deep, river

Fold flop is standard, if u dont think about taking it away later, then raising turn is ok, if u follow up, on river you have a bluffcatcher (sets top2 bad str8, but v rarely worse flush) for a big bet in a 3handed game. Not many villians are capable of such moves, so i think its a fold, even calling cant be that big mistake. Esp cause you are repping str8 and i think big stack is more likely to mess around here.

Still i like fold best, waiting too see if he can showe up with bluffs and also huge ones. Finding bether spot later.
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