400NL: Value raise thin?

Raised2Win · #1 06-10-2007, 04:43 PM

I don't remember my opponents exact stats but he seemed to be laggish but not in a good way.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($564.55)
Button ($423.80)
SB ($417.50)
BB ($56.05)
UTG ($931.55)
Hero ($555.85)
MP1 ($400)
MP2 ($234.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 4 folds, SB calls $14, 1 fold.

Flop: ($36) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $28, SB calls $28.

Turn: ($92) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($92) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $40, Hero raises to $110

His river bet seemed like a blocker and I felt I could get a call from worse hands than AQ. KJ<, TX, KQ, AK and also 89. Also if he was going to shove, I would be folding.

Since I could have JJ here easily I doubt this is a spot for any of his range to bluff shove me.

I know its pretty thin but what u think against not a good player?

GrandMelon · #2 06-10-2007, 04:49 PM

Looks good as long as you fold to a shove

Mr_Donktastic · #3 06-10-2007, 04:50 PM

I think its good for the reasons you stated:
1) there are hands you can get value from
2) villian is VERY unlikely to bluff reraise you...so you can fold if reraised.

I would have made it a little bigger. Like $120-$130. Not a big deal but every little bit of value helps.

SABR42 · #4 06-10-2007, 05:46 PM

I like it.

raistlinx · #5 06-10-2007, 05:56 PM

Looks good

Renton · #6 06-10-2007, 06:05 PM

idk, good players never ever call on worse here. The only merit the play has imo is that he basically never has you beat. I don't don't think you get any additional value here.

CalledDownLight · #7 06-11-2007, 12:56 AM

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idk, good players never ever call on worse here. The only merit the play has imo is that he basically never has you beat. I don't don't think you get any additional value here.

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I don't know. I think we see J10 or a flush that missed a turn c/r here a lot of the time. Obviously he could also have other 10s and missed a turn c/r, but I think he folds most hands you beat and calls/raises any hand that beats you here. IMO repping exactly JJ/AQ (all I think you could ever do this for value with) is not enough to assure you don't get bluffed off of your hand although not too many players pull the b/3b on the river so it might not be that much of a concern.

BT2 · #8 06-11-2007, 01:09 AM

i really hate this river raise. you are behind so much. i do not see anything calling you that you beat. the only possible thing that is good is maybe a scared flush will fold.

effang · #9 06-11-2007, 11:02 AM

how do you know he doesn't have the flush?

BT2 · #10 06-11-2007, 08:05 PM

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how do you know he doesn't have the flush?

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what do you mean? did i say he does not?