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Old 03-28-2006, 03:55 PM
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I chose burn. How often is this line NOT a flush? I was getting 4:1 and just crossed my fingers and hoped to see a donkily played 2pair/set. If he pushed turn I'dve called anyways so...BURN IT!

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($615.10)
Hero ($533)
MP ($315)
Button ($427.60)
SB ($517.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $22, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($56) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $44</font>, SB calls $44.

Turn: ($144) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $111</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $222</font>, Hero calls $111.

River: ($588) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB calls $226.50 (All-In), Hero calls $226.50.

Final Pot: $1041
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Old 03-28-2006, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

Yeah I should have bet more on flop, but I have been making a lot of 3/4 cbets and was hoping to get played back at.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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Yeah I should have bet more on flop, but I have been making a lot of 3/4 cbets and was hoping to get played back at.

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Meh, $44 is fine here. If you're gonna bet turn, get raised and plan on calling any blank river, shouldn't you just push turn?
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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Yeah I should have bet more on flop, but I have been making a lot of 3/4 cbets and was hoping to get played back at.

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Meh, $44 is fine here. If you're gonna bet turn, get raised and plan on calling any blank river, shouldn't you just push turn?

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I imagine he probably hadn't deciced whether or not to call if the river was a blank yet. These guys aren't folding either if the river pairs the board so i don't mind just calling the turn.

I think this is a flush though about 95% of the time and would like to think i would lay down on this river but with 4:1 the call is meh.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:12 PM
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These guys aren't folding either if the river pairs the board so i don't mind just calling the turn.

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That's why calling is good, so you can hit the boat and get paid off. Calling regardless isn't.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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These guys aren't folding either if the river pairs the board so i don't mind just calling the turn.

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That's why calling is good, so you can hit the boat and get paid off. Calling regardless isn't.

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best line is still checking behind on the turn.

and I hope none of you will come in and say something stupid like "i have to protect against 4th diamond".
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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I imagine he probably hadn't deciced whether or not to call if the river was a blank yet. These guys aren't folding either if the river pairs the board so i don't mind just calling the turn.

I think this is a flush though about 95% of the time and would like to think i would lay down on this river but with 4:1 the call is meh.

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Are you kidding me... 95%? You don't think people call a $25 raise pre-flop shorthanded with pocket pairs much more often than with Ax suited?
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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Yeah I should have bet more on flop, but I have been making a lot of 3/4 cbets and was hoping to get played back at.

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why should you bet more on the flop?
44 into 56 seems fine to me,its not like he's getting odds to call with a draw
you have top set,you don't want him to just fold...
am i missing something?
would most of you bet more on the flop?
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

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Yeah I should have bet more on flop, but I have been making a lot of 3/4 cbets and was hoping to get played back at.

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why should you bet more on the flop?
44 into 56 seems fine to me,its not like he's getting odds to call with a draw
you have top set,you don't want him to just fold...
am i missing something?
would most of you bet more on the flop?

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flop bet amount is fine especially for metagame considerations.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Save the money or burn it?

amoeba, thanks for your posts in this thread. i just fixed a big leak.
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