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Old 11-05-2007, 10:26 AM
sfetaz sfetaz is offline
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Default Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?

I recently decided to be serious with limit online poker. Deposited $600 into full tilt to play 1/2 limit, started posting on 2+2, reading more books and getting myself serious into limit. I track my stats and others, I am tight aggressive and find my stats mostly where they should be. Yet somehow most of my sessions are losing sessions. It's very frustrating and I don't know where to look to find holes in my game. Nearly everything I read in poker tracker looks correct to me. It even rates me as tight aggressive. I know stats alone don't dictate a good player but I feel like I do things correctly more often than not. It's not simply bad beats that I am losing money on. How does someone figure out what they are doing wrong or if it actually is variance?
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

it is hard to win at minbet as you cannot put opponents for decision for all their chips

switch to unlimited holdthems and crush the opposition!
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

As long as PT rates you as TAG, everything should be fine.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

How many hands? you could easily have played 10k hands of good poker and be down $$$.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:47 AM
sfetaz sfetaz is offline
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?

More than 5000, less than 6000. Ok lets assume its variance. When do you start to see a profit? I am down almost $175. That's a little ground to make up. Am I all of a sudden going to have seemingly magical sessions where everything goes my way and profit goes up and up, back to back? I don't understand how if you lose so much, variance or not, you can all of a sudden be winning over and over without a serious run of cards. At these levels people play generally play well so how can those magic sessions just start appearing all of a sudden?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

Try 1.4 million hands
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

No. No, no, no, no, no. Well, yes.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

Win more than you lose. There are some incredibly deep concepts buried within that central poker concept, if you think about it hard enough. Yeah.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:02 PM
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The trick is to recognize when you hit that eventual rush of cards, and move up to higher stakes to play your rush. Everything in-between is just waiting.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho

1/2 limit, especially shorthanded, is the sickest game I play as far as variance and horrific constant river beats, sometimes you'll feel like your in a never ending downswing becuase your opponents hit magic cards on the river over and over again but just keep at it, 175 isn't a bad loss at all and can easily be made up.
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