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Old 03-09-2007, 09:02 PM
CrazyIvan24 CrazyIvan24 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands - KK preflop.... What should I have done?

Thank you all 2+2 players. I guess everyone here says they do not fold KK preflop, let alone in an online environment against any semi-loose/aggr players.

Yes I agree I've seen many worse hands, I've just been running bad, so I was wondering. hanks
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:30 PM
CieloAzor CieloAzor is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands - KK preflop.... What should I have done?

Since OP's questions seem to be answered, I may as well post my own KK hand here, rather than starting a new topic. This one is over 250BBs deep, so perhaps a bit more interesting. The converter doesn't seem to work with my site's hand histories and results of the hand are obvious, so I won't bother erasing it.

Stakes: $3/$6 Blinds ($1 Minimum Chip)
Seat 1 : Billingshurst starts with $573
Seat 2 : CieloAzor starts with $1 589
Seat 3 : kabul starts with $1 563
Seat 4 : W11BAD starts with $705
Seat 5 : podge59 starts with $1 262
Seat 6 : bosox555 starts with $401
Seat 6 : bosox555 has the dealer button
Billingshurst posts the small blind $3
CieloAzor posts the big blind $6
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
CieloAzor dealt down [Kh Kd]
kabul raises $15 to $21
W11BAD folds
bosox555 folds
Billingshurst folds
CieloAzor raises $45 to $66
kabul raises $275 to $341
CieloAzor raises $1 248 to $1 589 and is all-in
kabul calls $1 222 and is all-in
CieloAzor takes back $26
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ 9c 10s 2h ]
bosox555 : wow
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 8c ]
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ Ac ]
CieloAzor cards were Kd Kh
kabul cards were As Ah
kabul wins $3,127 with three of a kind, aces

kabul and I seemed to be the best 2 players at the table and he had been coming over the top of me many times, with me folding to the reraise. The previous time, however, I had called him with Q9o and check-raised the flop with air to take it down.

Still, I'm concerned that my final raise is maybe too large and doesn't get called even by QQ. Maybe I'd do better to flat call, and get the money in on the flop?

Is villain's huge 4-bet a strong indicator that he's got AA here? I think it may be, but I didn't even notice it at the time. I was hoping he'd put that last raise in, and when he did, I pushed without much study.
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