Anyone check raising this river????

[xerxesthegod]

Here is what poker stove says correct me if I'm wrong.

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Board: Ad 7d 5d Ac
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.602% 45.79% 03.82% 33300876 2775649.00 { Ah9d }
Hand 1: 24.309% 22.98% 01.33% 16714138 966424.00 { 55+, A5s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+ }
Hand 2: 13.044% 11.80% 01.24% 8582844 904612.50 { 66+, A2s+, K7s+, K5s, Q9s+, Q7s, Q5s, J9s+, J7s, J5s, T9s, T7s, T5s, 97s, 95s, 87s, 85s, 75s, 65s, 53s+, A5o+, KQo }
Hand 3: 13.044% 11.80% 01.24% 8582844 904612.50 { 66+, A2s+, K7s+, K5s, Q9s+, Q7s, Q5s, J9s+, J7s, J5s, T9s, T7s, T5s, 97s, 95s, 87s, 85s, 75s, 65s, 53s+, A5o+, KQo }

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So given the flop action you think all these guys can have Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

Those ranges are way of.

Oh and OP. If you think you are so right and that everyone here is so wrong, why do you post the hand?

[xerxesthegod]

So stove it for me. All you can do here is put ranges you can't really stove each situation and discount this hand or that hand from the range. for two fishes those ranges are not off at all these guys are 70/5/0.3 type. in this hand one called all the way and all the raises with pocket 6 and the other guy with K,4o with the Kd so no these ranges are not way off.

And i don't say I'm right here but all we have here are people saying they wouldn't play the hand like that but no one says why. the only person giving real reasons is Apnage and I was discussing the reasons he gave in the last two posts with him.

[TheDudeChad]

If you were confident enough that villain would raise KK-88 on this flop and bet the turn into 3 callers, then the river looks like an easy CR since your hand looks like a flush and a hand like KK couldn't pass up that value bet.

That said, I think its very unlikely that he does have KK-88 given the flop and turn play. I think its reasonably likely he could have raised them on the flop, but once he gets 3 callers he has to believe at least someone has an A. That would be a pretty bad turn bet. On the turn I think his most likely hands are a better A, a flopped set, or a flopped flush, then KK-88.

So, like others have said, just call turn and donk river.

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So stove it for me.

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No I wont.

You posted the hand to get critique I assume. Then people tell you that turn is bad - which is a very complicated spot to analyse -. I havent ever seen you make a thorough analysis of any hand someone else posted. Why do you expect people should do it for you then?


I already told you that we cant expect a TAG to raise a lot of worse hands on the flop. Apanage told you that even if he did its quite a parlay to expect him to bet again on the turn when he gets 2 coldcallers.

If the TAG is raising KK on the flop and betting again on the turn he is an idiot. You didnt post in the OP that he is an idiot so you cant expect people to tell you what to do under that assumption.


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for two fishes those ranges are not off at all these guys are 70/5/0.3 type.

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Sorry. I missed where you put that in your OP... O wait!




Also. Why the hell would you post a hand and then when people tell you they wouldnt play it like you, you get mad like a little girl...?

[xerxesthegod]

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Also. Why the hell would you post a hand and then when people tell you they wouldnt play it like you, you get mad like a little girl...?

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You need to reread the title and the first post in that case . Never asked anything about the turn.