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Old 05-03-2007, 01:31 AM
igetbadbeat igetbadbeat is offline
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

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I call both

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Wow, I always fold hand 1. I really am too weak.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:13 AM
Chaoslord Chaoslord is offline
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

thanks for your replys.
i know that i could have reraised twin preflop or that i could have just called with my flushdraw in position, thats not the point.

obviously you should try to avoid getting into this situation but my question was once you are facing the all-in and you can either call or fold what to do.

I ended up calling both times and thought this might be a leak in my game (results obviously dont matter much but for those who care both had QJ, i lost hand1 and won hand2)
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

i dont fold nut flush draws when ppl 3 bet shove on me. u see non nut flush draws a tonnnnnn and ur dominating. if ur not dominating /suckout.
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

mmmmm, I guess it really depends on the quality of your draw.

For instance, your first draw might consist only in a flush draw (he might have a queen already), so basically you sometimes can reduce your draw to 9 outs (and discount his locks), but on the second draw , you might have your whole 15 outs available (opponent specific though);

I d say that I might fold the first one, and consider calling all in the second one (even if you discount 3 or 4 of your outs) if the villain is known to push more than sets in this scenario (which he will,like overpairs etc against which you re doing fairly well.)


So I think it really depends on the odds you are getting, your opponent's habits, and the strength of your draw relative to your opponent's realistic range (taking into consideration the flop texture).
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

I didn't think it was possible to use so many words and say absolutely nothing.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

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For instance, your first draw might consist only in a flush draw (he might have a queen already), so basically you sometimes can reduce your draw to 9 outs (and discount his locks), but on the second draw , you might have your whole 15 outs available (opponent specific though);

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In case anyone didn't know how to count the number of outs.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

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I d say that I might fold the first one, and consider calling all in the second one (even if you discount 3 or 4 of your outs) if the villain is known to push more than sets in this scenario (which he will,like overpairs etc against which you re doing fairly well.)

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So now that you've considered calling all-in on the second hand, what action have you decided to take?

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So I think it really depends on the odds you are getting, your opponent's habits, and the strength of your draw relative to your opponent's realistic range (taking into consideration the flop texture).

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Oh sorry, that's right.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

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I call both

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Old 05-06-2007, 10:13 AM
cocarondelle cocarondelle is offline
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Default Re: Calling All-Ins with a draw.

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I didn't think it was possible to use so many words and say absolutely nothing.

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U just did.tx for helping OP
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