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Old 11-29-2007, 02:10 PM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

I have evidence which suggests some top 2+2ers are playing online for PLAY MONEY!!!!

A very old friend of mine has been working hard for some years to set up a play money site at which you can play against (ahem) bots as well as real players. It has some nice features and some real novelties, e.g. they model your play and create a "virtual you" who continues playing for play money when you're not there.

I just looked at the home page and some names jumped out at me: there are now virtual players called PokerBob, Joe Tall, Scary_Tiger, DeathDonkey and c dee c.

Have you guys been splashing around for play money or is my friend taking your names in vain?

If there's interest and if it's not considered spam I'll reveal the name of the site; but I was very tickled to see those names on the list. Is it really you?

Guy.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:00 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

Hi Guy,

I'm not sure what you're involvement with the site is but I have absolutely no affiliation or stake in it, so I'm happy to say www.pokerparadime.com is a really neat site in free beta right now that I'm using.

I know how it sounds to say they created a site where you can play with and make a bot, but this isn't like "here's the code to make a bot and put it on pokerstars" its like "here is how you appear to play after X hands at your current style" and they use "Virtual Players" to give that style you create a legit sample size.

Anyway that didn't make a ton of sense but I think this site may help me find leaks in my play I never knew about - my "bot" has already played 20k hands and I can see his PT stats for instance.

-DeathDonkey

ps: Virtual Pokerbob runs good!
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

i just watched virtual pokerbob make a really dumb river bet what a fish
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:35 PM
TeeJayOrTJ TeeJayOrTJ is offline
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

Virtual TeeJayOrTj Is such a spewtard. I love it. Virtual Scary_Tiger was gunshy on river. This is first hand I watched of virtual me.
#Game No : 721575
***** Hand History for Game 721575 *****
$1/$2 Limit Texas Hold'em (6 Max) - Thursday, November 29, 23:34:34 GMT 2007
Table Greentol
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Sonia ( $392 )
Seat 2: <BaronSid> ( $115.50 )
Seat 3: <TeeJayOrTj> ( $21.50 )
Seat 4: <DukeApple> ( $32.75 )
Seat 5: <Scary_Tiger> ( $42.50 )
Seat 6: <MayorJutes> ( $12.50 )
Sonia posts small blind [$0.50]
<BaronSid> posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to <TeeJayOrTj> [ Jd Jc ]
<TeeJayOrTj> raises [$2]
<DukeApple> folds
<Scary_Tiger> raises [$3]
<MayorJutes> folds
TeeJayOrTj: Go Virtual Me
Sonia calls [$2.50]
<BaronSid> folds
<TeeJayOrTj> raises [$2]
<Scary_Tiger> calls [$1]
Sonia calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Qh, 2d ]
Sonia checks
<TeeJayOrTj> bets [$1]
<Scary_Tiger> raises [$2]
Sonia folds
<TeeJayOrTj> raises [$2]
<Scary_Tiger> raises [$2]
<TeeJayOrTj> calls [$1]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
<TeeJayOrTj> bets [$2]
<Scary_Tiger> raises [$4]
<TeeJayOrTj> calls [$2]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
<TeeJayOrTj> checks
<Scary_Tiger> checks
<TeeJayOrTj> shows [ Jd, Jc ] Two Pair, Queens and Jacks
<Scary_Tiger> shows [ Ks, Kc ] Two Pair, Kings and Queens
<Scary_Tiger> wins $29 from the main pot with Two Pair, Kings and Queens
The time at which the hand ended: Thursday, November 29, 23:35:25 GMT 2007
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:25 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

The real fish in that hand is clearly Sonia. I actually emailed the site owner and conversed a bit about this, but Sonia does not appear to play good poker to me, but yet the stats they compile on her have her destroying the games. I can't really justify that in my mind when I see the way she plays.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:45 AM
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I just registered and waiting for a confermation email, wont be playing as I have to go now but watch out for inferno! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], also pokerbo(b)t, has lots of emonies (aim me to talk about this shizzle im interested [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

Dealer:Game #753935 starts
Dealer:yellowjack posts small blind [$0.50]
Dealer:Sonia posts big blind [$1]
Dealer:** Dealing down cards **
Dealer:MissLoams folds
Dealer:BaronSid folds
Dealer:MrBedsdon folds
Dealer:chipspewer folds
Dealer:yellowjack calls [$0.50]
Dealer:Sonia checks
Dealer:** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 4d, 3s ]
Dealer:yellowjack checks
Dealer:Sonia checks
Dealer:** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
Dealer:yellowjack bets [$2]
Dealer:Sonia raises [$4]
Dealer:yellowjack calls [$2]
Dealer:** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
Dealer:yellowjack bets [$2]
Dealer:Sonia raises [$4]
Dealer:yellowjack calls [$2]
Dealer:Sonia shows [ 7s, 5c ] Three of a Kind, Threes
Dealer:yellowjack shows [ 9c, 6c ] A Full House, Threes full of Nines
#753935yellowjack wins $18 from main pot with A Full House, Threes full of Nines

Sonia had 75o
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:21 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

[ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure what you're involvement with the site is but I have absolutely no affiliation or stake in it

[/ QUOTE ]

Just for the record, I have no involvement or stake in it either.

One of the two developers (the one spelt with a c rather than a k) is a good friend of mine, one of my two main poker buddies I suppose. He kept the whole thing a giant secret for three years or more while they worked on it, and only revealed it to me a few months ago when the site was more or less ready to go.

I find the whole thing fascinating. I have found Sonia to be very tough to beat despite her exhibiting some very strange behaviour; e.g. she has been known to three-bet/fold preflop in a blind steal situation.

I've had some extremely interesting discussions with my friend since he revealed this project to me. I hope that he'll end up sharing some of this with us all here. I am more or less sworn to confidentiality about most of it. I told him about this thread last night so maybe he'll post here.

Now if only I could prevent myself going on play-money tilt every time I try to play there, maybe I could work out how best to use the site as a training tool.

Guy.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

this is hilarious. someone created a site where pbob runs hot and crushes all.

but wtf, how come theres no virtual victor?
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

#Game No : 764538
***** Hand History for Game 764538 *****
$1/$2 Limit Texas Hold'em (6 Max) - Friday, November 30, 12:53:28 GMT 2007
Table King's Tallenpoint
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Sonia ( $1179.50 )
Seat 2: <MrPineberry> ( $53 )
Seat 3: <rjb24> ( $50 )
Seat 4: <phaethon> ( $51.75 )
Seat 5: inferno ( $36 )
Seat 6: <LadyByburgh> ( $75 )
<LadyByburgh> posts small blind [$0.50]
Sonia posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to inferno [ Qd Jd ]
<MrPineberry> folds
<phaethon> calls [$1]
inferno raises [$2]
<LadyByburgh> folds
Sonia raises [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
inferno calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 7d, 6s ]
Sonia checks
<phaethon> bets [$1]
inferno raises [$2]
Sonia raises [$3]
<phaethon> raises [$3]
inferno calls [$2]
Sonia calls [$1]
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Sonia bets [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
inferno calls [$2]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
Sonia bets [$2]
<phaethon> raises [$4]
inferno folds
Sonia calls [$2]
<phaethon> shows [ 7h, 8h ] A Ten High Straight
Sonia doesn't show [ Kd, Tc ] A Pair of Tens
<phaethon> wins $35.50 from the main pot with A Ten High Straight
The time at which the hand ended: Friday, November 30, 12:54:16 GMT 2007
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