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Old 10-09-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

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I know I'm in the minority, but this is why I don't like the onside kick - just adds a pure luckbox factor.

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Please. The Bills played that onside kick terribly.

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It's a coin flip across the league.

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Onside kicks are most certainly not 'coin flips!'

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You're saying some teams only allow like 20% of onsides to be recovered and some like 80%?

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For [censored]'s sake, the average successful onside kick rate has got to be in the twenties if not the teens. That's why it's a desperation / trick play.

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I've heard 50-50 for years - hence the coinflip reference.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

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I know I'm in the minority, but this is why I don't like the onside kick - just adds a pure luckbox factor.

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Please. The Bills played that onside kick terribly.

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It's a coin flip across the league.

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Onside kicks are most certainly not 'coin flips!'

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You're saying some teams only allow like 20% of onsides to be recovered and some like 80%?

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For [censored]'s sake, the average successful onside kick rate has got to be in the twenties if not the teens. That's why it's a desperation / trick play.

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13% of anticipated onside kicks were recovered by the kicking team
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

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I think its pretty obvious the Bills would MUCH rather give up the shot at a 53-yarder by a rookie than give up something big deep or down the middle with all their guys watching the sideline. Kid's just got ice in his veins.

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Congratulations, you are officially the the dumbest poster in the forum.

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It got lost in quick reply, but I was responding to someone who said Buffalo should have put 4 or 5 guys on each sideline. Plus, if you think that was an easy play to defend at all, you're insane. You've got TO and Crayton, I'd much rather force them to dump it off and try from 50+ with a rookie than let them get deep anywhere.

LOL...if you can honestly read this forum consistently and call me the dumbest poster, you just might be a candidate for that exact title.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:41 AM
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It would have been more in theme with the evening if Folk had missed the first kick, then made the second after Jauron gave him another chance.

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Wow. That would have been epic. Wow.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:42 AM
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I think its pretty obvious the Bills would MUCH rather give up the shot at a 53-yarder by a rookie than give up something big deep or down the middle with all their guys watching the sideline. Kid's just got ice in his veins.

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Congratulations, you are officially the the dumbest poster in the forum.

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It got lost in quick reply, but I was responding to someone who said Buffalo should have put 4 or 5 guys on each sideline. Plus, if you think that was an easy play to defend at all, you're insane. You've got TO and Crayton, I'd much rather force them to dump it off and try from 50+ with a rookie than let them get deep anywhere.

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Still wrong.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:43 AM
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Why did Stuart Scott just say that half the stadium were Cowboys fans?

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Cuz there were a sh**ton at the game. Cowboy fans travel better than any nfl team. Maybe steelers/packers second.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

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I know I'm in the minority, but this is why I don't like the onside kick - just adds a pure luckbox factor.

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Please. The Bills played that onside kick terribly.

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It's a coin flip across the league.

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Onside kicks are most certainly not 'coin flips!'

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You're saying some teams only allow like 20% of onsides to be recovered and some like 80%?

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For [censored]'s sake, the average successful onside kick rate has got to be in the twenties if not the teens. That's why it's a desperation / trick play.

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I've heard 50-50 for years - hence the coinflip reference.

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Well, that is asinine, and you should be able to see that clearly. If the league average was 50% you'd see teams that rarely if ever kicked it deep.

From the same man who independently discovered that Coca-Cola tastes better cold, people!
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

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I know I'm in the minority, but this is why I don't like the onside kick - just adds a pure luckbox factor.

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Please. The Bills played that onside kick terribly.

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It's a coin flip across the league.

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Onside kicks are most certainly not 'coin flips!'

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You're saying some teams only allow like 20% of onsides to be recovered and some like 80%?

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For [censored]'s sake, the average successful onside kick rate has got to be in the twenties if not the teens. That's why it's a desperation / trick play.

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13% of anticipated onside kicks were recovered by the kicking team

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That's weird - I distinctly remember the 50-50 stat from about 5-6 years ago. Maybe rules changed or defenses changed like this article guesses. But I still don't like it - it just gives the losing team a freeroll at the end of games.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

Obv a Bills or Pats fan. Cowboys 6-0 next week! Count On it! Romo will not have 6 TOs next week.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: MNF Football: Cowboys vs. Bills

If onside kicks were 50/50, teams would start kicking them pretty much any time they were down more than a touchdown (and maybe even more than that).
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