NL25 - overpair on monotone board

[customer_nr1]

MP1 is 49.18/1.64/0.26 over 61 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $28.65
SB: $17.50
Hero (BB): $26.75
UTG: $25.05
UTG+1: $51.95
UTG+2: $19.20
MP1: $44.30
MP2: $34.85
CO: $14.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, MP1 calls $2.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($6.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $10</font>, Hero ?

What is the best option here?
Also what do you think his range is?

[EN09]

mp1's range could be quite wide as he limped first in. i don't put him on a flush, a set possibly 88 or 55. he makes a big move with an AF of .26 so it's a shove or fold in my mind based off of your reads. and from my experience when a passive makes a big move at me like that, i was 2nd best when the dust cleared fwiw.

EN

[customer_nr1]

I wasn't too happy either when he raised me. But I don't really know how accurate his AF is considering that its a small sample and the AF of a player with high VPIP will be naturally lower. Anyway if we suppose that he is capable of taking this line with other hands than set/flush like 9c9x, TcTx or JcJx or other FD, what's better: shoving, calling and pushing any non-club turn or still fold? Would you be more inclined to shove if the flop was rainbow?

[EN09]

the small sample is all we have to go on, since it what was you put in there. if it was rainbow i'm most likely getting it in. being a flush flop any club is a winner meaning many more outs for villain - if i'm not already behind a set/two pair.

i really don't see him limping first in with and only calling a raise with JJ+. with 99/TT being first in i'd think he'd raise it up at least the minimum. he may have Ax with the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and getting frisky.

this one is chiefly off your gut feel and for what villain has done previously. i might be inclined to fold to the reraise here w/oone of my cards being a club. others will tell you to shove and reload if need be.

EN

[customer_nr1]

I agree that it is very unlikely for villain to have AA,KK here. However I think that since his PFR is so low he could have actually 22-JJ based on his preflop actions. But you're right with this AF we can safely rule out at least those overpairs that do not contain a club, maybe he wouldn't raise flop with any overpair at all.

[bottomset]

you should make it 3.50-4 preflop being OOP is a big handicap

[TheBad]

50/1,6 loves to slowplay his flush.

I think you will see Ac8x or 2pair hands quite often here. I´d fold and if he makes this move again, there will be a better place to call.

[ledders07]

i think you're behind more often than you're ahead

fold and note the min-raise

[ClubChamp04]

His range is almost any two here. He is your typical loose passive fishcake who plays a ton of hands which makes it very hard to put him on something(in this short of a sample). I'm stacking almost everytime here if he had any aggression, but I think this is a fold considering how passive he has been playing. You can find better spots to get your stack in vs him.

[customer_nr1]

Well, thank you guys for the replies!

So the consensus is clearly to fold here. I hope I will be able to lay it down next time against this kind of opponent [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. The problem is that I don't think he would raise on the flop without a club/set/2pair and so I don't have the required 40% equity. Plus as you said his range is not really well defined.

Anyway here are the results:
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $28.65
SB: $17.50
Hero (BB): $26.75
UTG: $25.05
UTG+1: $51.95
UTG+2: $19.20
MP1: $44.30
MP2: $34.85
CO: $14.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, MP1 calls $2.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($6.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24 and is All-In</font>, MP1 calls $14

Turn: ($54.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($54.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $54.60 Pot ($2.70 Rake)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$26.75 NET)
MP1 showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and WON $51.90 (+$25.15 NET)

Don't really mean too much, but w/e.