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Old 10-31-2007, 07:55 PM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

SB: 73/8/2.6
BB: 51/12/2.2 (have not seen him 3bet in 60 hands we were at the table together)

both oponents were rather passive pf mostly limping and calling, that is why I thought BB's 3betting range might be JJ+, AK at most - but probably even tighter

is my play ok?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $46.85
CO: $43
Hero (BTN): $79.22
SB: $16.57
BB: $48.61

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="red">BB raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $5, SB calls $5

Flop: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $9.57 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $9.57, Hero calls $9.57

Turn: ($49.71) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
<font color="red">BB bets $32.04 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

River: ($49.71) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 are All-In)
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:57 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

push flop
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:05 PM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

for value or as a bluff? what do I want to fold out and what can I expect to call?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

I don't like the call behind on the flop... You either fold or push, and I like shoving....
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:31 PM
aka_bebel aka_bebel is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

I think calling FLOP and folding TURN is bad .If he has JJ/KK/AA nh..but I don't think we can just call PF with QQ and continue in the hand like this.
Here I would just shove flop.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:32 PM
Schiester Schiester is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

IMO flop decision should be based on BB's flop action.

If he calls, I shove (i.e. as played).

If he shoves, I fold.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

If you are going to only call the flop, then you really are doing it to get your opponent to fire again if you feel he will fold. Though after he puts in the original bet he isn't going anywhere so you need to value push the flop.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:52 AM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

I had villain on JJ+ or AK, from this range I only beat AK. I thought that if I push flop AK will fold and everything else calls and beats me. I also thought that AK will not bet turn unimproved all the time and being in position I can reevaluate based on villain's action.

Maybe I should have folded on the flop.

Do you think pushing flop is better than folding or caling? If so why? Do I have him on too tight a 3bet range? Does he call with worse?
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:55 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

call turn dude.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

well you only have 60 hands on villain.. there's a chance he was card dead.. shove flop here all day and if he shoves flop fold.
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