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Old 09-17-2007, 10:29 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $195.00
BB: $241.30
UTG: $209.02
BTN: $184.60

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 19/12/3 and has done absolutely nothing of note so far. I should probably be 19/16/3 or so.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $22.00

Flop: ($62) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42.00</font>, UTG calls $42.00

Turn: ($146) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...</font>

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Old 09-17-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

Seems you bet the flop with no idea what to do on the turn.

So... why did you bet the flop? Value? Bluff? Reflex?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

You have invested 72 out of 195 already. I c/c this turn since we have put so much into the pot already. J-J and 10-10 will probably not call a push on the turn, but they might push themselves. If he has A-K, then whatever. You shouldn't have bloated the pot so much. 3 bet to 25 pf and CB 34.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

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Seems you bet the flop with no idea what to do on the turn.

So... why did you bet the flop? Value? Bluff? Reflex?

[/ QUOTE ]


value most probably

c/f turn and block river
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

Preflop is fine oop. You played it well. You can safely fold...this time.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

c/f is fine.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

Figured as much. Line of thinking is that most villains will bet their AK on the turn and check behind with whatever I beat so I can valuepunk them with a smallish bet on the river?

Yeah, flop was a vbet.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:36 AM
JadeRedstone JadeRedstone is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Botched this one in a 3bet pot

I don't get it.
How can it be a value bet if we panic once they call?

What if T's-Q's think they need to protect from an over card on the river and bet?
what if AK decide to slow play to river?

Not questioning , just trying to understand ...
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