Simple river question

[Bramsterdam]

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00/$2.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

<font color="blue">Villain is a tag, 23/14. Not very good, but not a target at this table. His line confuses me, looks like either air or a monster. Call or fold river?</font>

Button ($296.75)
SB ($192.30)
BB ($89.61)
MP3 ($99.20)
CO ($853.50) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $22.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $15.00,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $47 )
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34.00</font>, SB calls $34.00,

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $115 )
SB checks, Hero checks,

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $115 )
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $75.00</font>, Hero ?

[scallop]

I fold these all day long. Flush got there. 35 got there. Sets were already there. KK/AA weird play still beat you.

[BombayBadboy]

How on earth is villain going to show up with a flush here after calling that rainbow flop OOP? This guy might not be godsgift to poker, but he aint stupid. Also, its a reraised pot so I can't see him show up ith 53 too much either.

I think that this is KK/AA (maybe QQ) very often, and I'd fold. I expect him to induce a bluff from you if he is holding TT/JJ, since your line looks like air.

[scallop]

Why can't he be defending his blinds agressively? Why can't he have a[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ?

Fwiw I think those are smaller parts of his range, but part of his range nonetheless.

[scatt_man]

fold

[Skleice]

I fold. Looks like a weird AA/KK to me trying to get paid on the river.

[dmoney]

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How on earth is villain going to show up with a flush here after calling that rainbow flop OOP? This guy might not be godsgift to poker, but he aint stupid. Also, its a reraised pot so I can't see him show up ith 53 too much either.

I think that this is KK/AA (maybe QQ) very often, and I'd fold. I expect him to induce a bluff from you if he is holding TT/JJ, since your line looks like air.

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You think people won't peel w/ AKcc? or AJcc? to a 34$ cbet into a 47$ pot? You are dreaming, he knows he could have 2 big cards that missed. He could also have AQo as well. It looks to me more like a AKcc or Set of 9s or Qs alot more often then air. I don't think it's KK/AA either. I think he raises flop with those and doesn't lead river when Flush gets there. He would probalby c/c river with those 2 hands.

In re to him being OOP. OP said he wasn't very good so that also makes he think he doesn't understand position very well.

Given all this rambling, I'd say fold.

WOW. i just realized SB was 3 bettor, and he checks flop. How brutal is that. I also hate betting this flop in this spot. You are just bloating the pot for when you are crushed. It makes Set of 9s even more likely in my mind. or AA.

I say fold still.

[BombayBadboy]

dmoney,

AA and KK can smooth this flop perfectly..no real draws out there. Also, people that peel this flop in a rr pot with AcKc are complete fish most of the time, this guy is too loose pre and not aggro enough, but we can't assume he is a total fish.

To all the callers, I'd like to hear some more arguments..what do you guys think villains line represents? Nick? Shpanko? Jfsports?

I agree with the comment that if you are betting this flop, be prepared to bet turn as well.

[Nick Royale]

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To all the callers, I'd like to hear some more arguments..what do you guys think villains line represents? Nick? Shpanko? Jfsports?


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Just don't see what he's repping. Can't see why he would check/call the flop with AA/KK. We can't assume he's a donk, but his stats looks a bit suspect. I think we're beat alot but ahead of smaller PPs, retarded AK or random paired junk enough (29%+).

[therockofgibraltar]

I swear the god you had different avatar like 30s ago :P