$200r KK annoying spot

djk123 · #1 06-10-2007, 11:33 PM

I havn't been paying a whole lot of attention, so I dont really have any reads. I think preflop is optimal as utg knows me and will be calling/pushing [pretty tight. Would anyone do anything different on flop/turn? Can i call river?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t25)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t16223
UTG+1: t12876
MP1: t5155
djk123: t10735
CO: t15211
Button: t21220
SB: t12048
BB: t10678

Pre-flop: (8 players) djk123 is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t1200, 2 folds, djk123 calls t1200 (pot was t2000), 3 folds, BB calls t800 (pot was t3200).

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t4000, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, djk123 bets t2400, BB calls t2400 (pot was t6400), UTG folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t8800, 2 players)
BB bets t1600, djk123 calls t1600 (pot was t10400).

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t12000, 2 players)
BB is all-in t5453, djk123

curtains · #2 06-10-2007, 11:52 PM

I would of course reraise preflop despite your feelings on the villain. Your hand isn't so strong that you want a multiway pot, which is often going to happen when you flat call and let everyone in cheaply.

It's not really the end of the world to take down 2000 uncontested, thus increasing your stack size by 20%.

Ok obviously its okay to call preflop I just don't think I'd do it. Meanwhile you probably lose any ace high flop since they will bet and you will likely fold. I dunno I just don't like it here.

ArturiusX · #3 06-11-2007, 05:42 AM

Postflop is there any reason not to push the turn?

her0carn · #4 06-11-2007, 09:26 AM

" djk123 calls t1200 "
This is pretty much what made you post this on 2p2.

Crash0veride · #5 06-11-2007, 12:49 PM

As PLAYED,
-The call pre-flop is not completely terrible.
-Ugly flop, BB Calls a bet with UTG to act behind him on a very dry board, He has a Q a lot of times here.
-His turn bet is def. a call given how small it is.
-River is a fold, since all we beat is a bluff and a lot of small pairs that he wouldn't bet that way on the river.

Probably raise/ Call preflop 80%/20%
Bet Flop
shove turn.

markysals11 · #6 06-11-2007, 02:50 PM

I don't think his call preflop is as bad as you guys are making it look because a lot of the times he will induce some sort of squeeze from the blinds... only part about this hand that sucks is the flop, because the BB's calling range w/ his pot odds definitely contain Q9s,Q10s etc, but that being said, I still think i shove the turn

dboivin17 · #7 06-11-2007, 03:25 PM

plz rereaise preflop with KK. if he calls your reraise it gives u a better idea of his hand and you still have position on both players throughout the hand

djk123 · #8 06-11-2007, 04:12 PM

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" djk123 calls t1200 "
This is pretty much what made you post this on 2p2.

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um what? imo calling here is the most +ev play, despite being higher variance. If i reraise here my hand looks soooo strong and utg will be able to fold most of his worse hands. i posted this hand cause i thought postflop was interesting.

MEJG2 · #9 06-11-2007, 04:22 PM

If everyone is pushing the turn, why are we folding the river? The 5d is not helping his hand, and we look weak by not raising his anemic turn bet.

wulfpacker21 · #10 06-21-2007, 04:24 PM

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" djk123 calls t1200 "
This is pretty much what made you post this on 2p2.

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um what? imo calling here is the most +ev play, despite being higher variance. If i reraise here my hand looks soooo strong and utg will be able to fold most of his worse hands. i posted this hand cause i thought postflop was interesting.

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and KK isn't that great of a hand 3handed