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Old 09-10-2007, 09:27 PM
Chomp Chomp is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

I see it exactly the same all the way Kevin.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

AK, QQ, or JJ are the only hands that make sense here.

Id bet the flop though
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

See if you bet say $25 on the flop the hand would have played out way easier.

As played I really don't see what you beat but QQ.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

I don't beat a lot of hands here, the flop sucked and so did the river so thats why I played it the way I did. As for betting the flop, sure its way easier.. I'm committed against a ton of hands that stack me (JJ,TT), get a few hands (QQ,AJ) to maybe call and pay me off, and get AK and maybe anything else to fold.

It just seems much more likely that I get bet into or paid off by the worse hands with a flop check, the second J on the river is a big part of the reason I checked the river instead of betting.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:15 PM
TTStrangler TTStrangler is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

Kevin, if Villain makes it 30-40$ on the flop do you push, or fold? Do mostly hands that you beat bet here?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

Button is agressive.

Flop is drawy and I throw out a cb.

As played you have 1/2 psb on river. I shove or cc a shove if he is aggressive post flop as well.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:32 AM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK 3bet pf, unsure about the river

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I'm so tired of reading 'worse hands fold, better hands call'. I swear this is the most misused phrase in uNL. People suck, they call with worse all the time. And this hand is certainly not the time to apply it.

And checking for pot control? After you 4 bet pf pot control is out the window. You have $60 left and the pot is already $40! You aren't deep enough to check this flop. Not too mention you are OOP so how are you controlling the pot if villain bets?

And what are you hoping for villain to hit to catch up and be able to call a bet? Catch his two or 3 outer? If he does your beat. Not too mention how fishy 4 betting and then checking looks.

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why are you so adamantly in favor of betting the flop, do you really believe hero is getting called down light here? a bet is aimed at QQ; i don't see any harm in checking.


also, op what is your image?
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