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Old 09-17-2007, 06:03 PM
KyleC KyleC is offline
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

I have chronic Rheumatoid arthritis pain like you wouldn't believe and most I'd take in a day would be 6. Yes he is addicted.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:46 PM
BeaucoupFish BeaucoupFish is offline
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

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a pill called: hyrdrocodone Tab 7.5-500

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That is Vicodin ES (Extra Strength), normally I would think this would be prescribed for more-than-moderate acute or chronic pain.
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i'm just being nosy with a friend of mine wondering if he's an addict [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Or he may be dependant....there's a difference. If this is recreational use though, yes he is most likely addicted.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

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Hey. anyone familiar with this stuff?

a pill called: hyrdrocodone Tab 7.5-500

how many would a physician / pharmacist recommend taking in a day?

would 10 per day be more than the recommended usage? normal? seems like a lot to me.

i'm just being nosy with a friend of mine wondering if he's an addict [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I'd like to stress that it is not likely to be the hydrocodone component that is the short-term problem for your friend. It is the acetaminophen part. It is extremely unlikely that a doctor recommended that your addict friend take 10 of these daily. If I wrote for 10 vicodins daily, I'm positive I'd get a call from a pharmacist. 10 pills a day gets him to 5 grams of acetaminophen. Maximum recommended daily dose is 4 grams for someone with a healthy liver. For some drugs, the maximum recommended dosage is pretty meaningless. Not for tylenol, however. You can blow your liver up pretty easily. If he's a career drinker with bad liver disease, he might not want to max out at any more than 1000 mg (two vicodins) daily, if that. My inpatient hospital formulary uses Norcos rather than Vicodins. Their acetaminophen content is 325 mg rather than 500, so a healthy person can take 12 daily instead of just 8. There is actually no ceiling dose of the opioid component. I had one cancer patient over 2 grams of morphine (a stronger opioid) daily. That is enough to kill almost anyone reading this message. Your body can get used to escalating doses of opioids, however. Hobbes probably gives about 2 mg IV morphine as his first dose for his average ER patients he decides to give opioids to.

As far as addiction potential, it is commonly accepted that those people who are in bad pain have a much lower potential to get addicted. However, I haven't seen any good study data to back this up. It might just be "common knowledge" that happens to be wrong. Addiction potential is usually very low on my list, as I am frequently dealing with end-of-life cases. If you've got two months to live because of your metastatic lung cancer, then who the hell cares if you get addicted to morphine?

If you are worried about overdose rather than addiction, then you should look for sedation and respiratory depression.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:01 PM
Mat Sklansky Mat Sklansky is offline
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

I took the maximum dose of vicodin for 30 days and the maximum dose of percocet for 60 days thereafter. It was 1-2 pills every four hours, so I may have been at 12 a day. At least 8. It's likely the acet. content was 325. (So maybe vic or perc. is wrong.) I do remember going from hydrocodone to oxycodone.

This was prior to a successful back surgery. I absolutely was unable to function without the pills. There was no significant withdrawal after I stopped the pills a week or so after surgery.

So, in my case, needing the pills for pain seemed to have prevented addiction. When you're in enough pain, there really ain't much fun associated with pain pills.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

there is so much acetaminophen in ten 7.5/100's. it kind of grosses me out just thinking about taking that many. ten a day definately has the potential to create an addiction to the hydrocodone, and all that acetaminophen is not good for the liver taboot. get him to stop, and if he is addicted at least switch to percs or oxy's while he is waning himself off.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

i would be much more afraid of taking that much acetaminophen as compared to the actual drug to be honest
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

If he was truly an addict, he would need way more than 10 pills for the entire day to hold him over. This leads me to believe he's just getting started.
My best friends brother would take 30 in one day if you gave them to him. He likes to take 5 at a time.

People straight calling him an addict are probably right, but it doesn't sound like he's been deep into pills for months or anything like that.

He could be new to pills and he's just having some fun for a few weeks or so.

I'd just keep an eye on him and see if he continues.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

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Hey. anyone familiar with this stuff?

a pill called: hyrdrocodone Tab 7.5-500

how many would a physician / pharmacist recommend taking in a day?

would 10 per day be more than the recommended usage? normal? seems like a lot to me.

i'm just being nosy with a friend of mine wondering if he's an addict [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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75mg of hydro a day is not a sick crazy amount IMO if you are a heavy/regular user. IMO its the acetaminophen that will get him. That is such a sick amount to be taking daily, he really is putting a strain on his liver. I mean there is a reason children's tylenol exists; b/c the child liver cant handle the abuse acetaminophen puts on. This guy is taking vicodins, which i believe have much more acetaminophen than tylenols. Really its dangeoruse IMO. Correct me if im wrong (all my knowledge is from wiki, google, erowid) but Hyrdrocodone is not dangerous to the body in limited amounts even over long time (like heroine)?
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

i took 50 percs and 50 vics over at most 2 weeks after knee surgery. smoked a lot of pot too. still sucked and i wanted to die.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: Anyone take Hyrdrocodone? or Vicodin

So how do the addicts get ahold of so many pills?

Other than the black market or stealing them direct from a hospital, are they buying them online?
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