Florida Senate - SB0810 to revise cardroom laws?

[CybrPunk]

Are you kidding me? You don't have any friends that own beach front hotels, do you? Talk to most of the beach front hotel owners on Hollywood beach. Many of them are going broke. To think that our tourism industry is flourishing is only fooling yourself. I don't know what rock you've been living under. South Beach may have a healthy tourism industry but Broward County is hurting badly.

I'm actually going to stop discussing this with you here. I can't recall a single post of yours that was optimistic - ever. I'll just accept that you're a glass is half empty kind of guy and move on.

I, on the other hand, have hope... especially considering that all of these topics really are being discussed in our Senate.

[Packard]

If the $2 max bet continues in Florida it will ruin live poker in FL.

Sure they have many packed poker tables at the Hard Rocks currently, but if/when this poker boom slows, people will stop playing so much due to the low stakes/high rake. Locals who the games are built around will only take so much rake as 3x the BB? Totally crazy!

I hope FL does increase the stakes. It will be the only way to save FL poker in the next 5+ years. There is no reason to have a $2 max bet in 2007. That is even less than a gallon of gas. The reason it is $2 is because whovever is in charge of that law has no idea how poker works. Sounds like the whole U.S. online poker situation where the lawmakers don't know about poker.

Lets all hope for a change in the poker laws now. Beofre it is all over.

[flafishy]

Punk, this is a statewide issue. What's happening in Broward County is absolutely not indicative of what is going on statewide. Check the statewide numbers. Bed-tax revenues and hotel occupancy rates statewide, and especially in Orlando and Miami-Dade, have been smashing records for two years. Those little mom-and-pop beachsides in Broward have been dying since the local governments ran the spring-breakers off to Daytona and the Panhandle and the winter vacationers discovered Tampa Bay. That's a local issue, not a statewide one.

I'm sorry for raining on your parade. I would absolutely love to see it happen. I just don't think it will.

[NY60]

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If the $2 max bet continues in Florida it will ruin live poker in FL.

Sure they have many packed poker tables at the Hard Rocks currently, but if/when this poker boom slows, people will stop playing so much due to the low stakes/high rake. Locals who the games are built around will only take so much rake as 3x the BB? Totally crazy!

I hope FL does increase the stakes. It will be the only way to save FL poker in the next 5+ years. There is no reason to have a $2 max bet in 2007. That is even less than a gallon of gas. The reason it is $2 is because whovever is in charge of that law has no idea how poker works. Sounds like the whole U.S. online poker situation where the lawmakers don't know about poker.

Lets all hope for a change in the poker laws now. Beofre it is all over.

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EXCELLENT point, I'm glad to see that I am not the only lunatic that feels this way.

[Jeff_B]

is there any news on this?

when is a date i should look for a decision?

[NY60]

OK here's the latest, the place (Seminole Hollywood) goes smoke free at the poker tables (they can still smoke on the rails) as of Monday morning at 8:00 A.M....thats it! On Sunday evening when the clock struck 12:00 midnight the whole place went bananas cheering because everyone thought since it was officially Monday, that all the smokers would have to put out their cigarettes but they made an announcement that the new smoke free rule would not take effect until 8:00 A.M.

Spoke to the floor manager Robert about what has been written here and he didn't have a clue what I was taking about other than the smoke free issue.

Also, I played 171 raked hands in 7 hours and recorded that the total rake per hand reached the $5 max limit all of 14 hands. That's less than 10% of the total hands played. In addition, 99 of these 171 hands were played on an eleven (11) person table! I raise these facts in response to those who say that the tribe cannot make more rake revenue by raising the table stakes. Clearly, with higher table stakes, the pots by definition will be larger and more hands will reach the $5 maximum rake limit much more often thereby raising their revenues.

[flafishy]

Had a conversation yesterday with the poker room manager of one of the parimutuels (he asked me not to identify him here). He said the only legislation he knows of has to deal with blackjack and has nothing to do with poker.

He said it's a move to try to keep the momentum going in Broward County now that they're adding Class III slots. The reason he didn't want me to ID him is that he said he seriously doubts it will go anywhere in this legislative session, where everyone is focused on property tax reform and insurance legislation.

As far increasing poker stakes, he said it's not something that anyone is pushing for. He said he doesn't think it would make much of a difference for the poker rooms. He said they're more concerned with getting bigger tournaments going and with trying to get casino games.

[beats]

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you see very weird structures - limit holdem with a 2$ ante and 2/2 blinds - just ridiculous

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I apologize if this is off topic, but how are the Sit N Go's at Seminole? I don't know if I could deal with playing $2 limit hold'em.