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Old 11-20-2007, 03:34 PM
HBomb HBomb is offline
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Default Re: Nl50 QQ I 3bet - Ugly flop, c/f?

I'd continue bet this flop, preferably about 2/3 pot size, his cold calling once and then cold calling a reraise is very very weak and should be pounced upon, if he happens to call, try to get a cheap showdown by checking it down, if he bets anywhere around 1/2 pot later in the hand, I'd insta fold it.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Nl50 QQ I 3bet - Ugly flop, c/f?

check, call / float turn

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cbet / shut down if called or raised
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:17 PM
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Ummm... call me a lagtard, but I'd crai

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easy crai here imo
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: Nl50 QQ I 3bet - Ugly flop, c/f?

Mh crai sounds interesting(im never gonna do it obviously since for me he would have jj here every single time), why exactly go for a crai?

I understand his betting range>calling range when checked too, but does he really have a worse hand than us here that often?
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:35 PM
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He calls a raise from the button then calls a 3bet from the blinds. His range really looks like AQ or maybe 88-TT. I don't see him just flat calling two raises w/AJ or AK... basically I think you have the best hand here more often than not and I cbet. The only hand I see raising you here is A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I just don't see how he has AK/AA/KK/JJ/AJ.

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QFT this is a good evaluation.. although i still give up if called on flop unless i have a read that he calls with AK here... then i fire 2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .. I'm a lagtard thou so don't listen to me

BTW, i also don't mind a C/R here... although i give up to any further play.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Nl50 QQ I 3bet - Ugly flop, c/f?

I don't like the CRAI at all. the times he leads with AK and calls our shove outweights the times he bets with something worse than we have VS. folding or calling our shove. This is spew and villain will more than likely check behind with a worse hand than ours as the board would look pretty ugly for any hand worse than ours that villain might have.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:47 PM
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Ummm... call me a lagtard, but I'd crai

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easy crai here imo

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After thinking about it/stoving it I think this is definitely the best line to take.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:48 PM
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:07 PM
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crai is terrible
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Nl50 QQ I 3bet - Ugly flop, c/f?

I really think Im missing something here but how is crai even remotely good? I would love to hear the thinking behind this. I b/f here all day as far as my default line btw.
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