cardrunner HU hand by GP - wtf?

[ipokeder]

i decided to watch his latest video cuz i'm bored as all hell, watched it for like 20 minutes then got bored and just started skipping through. after like 10 minutes or something, the first guy he's playing gets up and a new guy, TaiwanStyle, sits down at his FTP 5/10 HU table.

GP talks about how he likes to have a solid image at the beginning of a heads up match and he doesn't get out of line very much, and basically abides by that, but taiwanstyle is playing back at him pretty hard. he gets 3-bet often, he has 4-bet i think twice over GP's 3-bets, he feels like he gets checkraised a lot and his checkraises are not getting respect (and once got 3-bet over). basically, the guy is running him over but he insists on playing solidly and not getting out of line because he says that he thinks that his opponent EXPECTS him to get out of line, so getting out of line would be the worst thing he could now do to adapt. he is winning very few pots, and he has been checking to taiwanstyle a lot, and has been i guess surprised that taiwanstyle has been betting most of the time when he expects him to check back. one example would be a hand where taiwanstyle opens, GP repops with Q9h. taiwan calls, as he often does, and flop comes J84cc. GP decides to delay continuation bet and checks. taiwan bets 150 into 200, GP thinks about it for a while and then folds cuz his time bank is too low.

then comes this hand about 50 minutes in, stacks are about 1.7k to GP's 1k. TaiwanStyle raises to 30 on the button, GP calls K9o in the bb. flop comes K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. taiwan bets 45 into the 60 pot, and then GP checkraises to 135 after timing down a little. taiwan thinks for a few seconds and then calls. turn comes 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. GP thinks for a while and then checks. taiwan checks back fairly quickly. river comes J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] after mulling over a bit and complaining about what a bad spot it is, he bets 190 as a "blocking bet". pot is 340 before he bets. taiwan thinks for about 10 seconds, and then shoves all in. 700 to GP into a 1420 pot.

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GP mumbles and folds, saying he played the hand poorly.

i'd snapcall this river. who's with me?

[Paul B.]

So I guess you're arguing that TaiwanStyle is shoving the river wider than normal because of GP's blocking bet?

If so, I agree to some degree and I think GP should've thought about how Taiwan would've reacted to it before betting it. I think it was a rash decision due to lack of time / not wanting to give off a timing tell. He probably could've analyzed all possibilities if he had more time to think about it.

[homeboy604]

what do you expect taiwan to show up with here?

[invid]

shooting yourself in the head is more +EV than calling this

[ogdundar]

His blockbet does indeed suck but calling this is worse.

[john kane]

i dont know who GP is, but from the description sounds like he failed to adapt.

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taiwan calls, as he often does, and flop comes J84cc. GP decides to delay continuation bet and checks. taiwan bets 150 into 200, GP thinks about it for a while and then folds cuz his time bank is too low.

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given taiwan is often calling GPs 3bets preflop, surely the worst thing is to then 3bet with average hands and then check-fold when you miss. isn't the correct adaption to 3bet with stronger hands, and if you do 3bet with weaker hands then be willing to 2 or 3 barrel the hand.

as for the hand itself, personally i fire turn.

as played, i don't know, i never block bet as i don't see the point as when someone raises, which they so often will, especially when your image is pretty tight/weak/passive, you don't know if it's as a bluff or as a value raise.

i'm sure GP is a really good poker player, i havent watched the video so can't properly say, but as described i don't like this particular HU play.

[AAismyfriend]

Pretty sick spot given the dynamics. I think good arguments could be made for both options, I gotta think some more about this one. JJ is the only hand that makes any real sense IMO, but that's assuming taiwanstyle isn't getting tricky on the turn or value shoving thin here. Given how Taylor played the hand I could certainly see this being a bluff though obviously which is what makes this spot so close.

[aislephive]

I think this is a fold because he expects us to call down very light given his aggressive image and he has been beating us down. In my experience this isn't a bluff often given the dynamics, but I don't play HU either.

[linuxrocks]

I guess the contention is about how he played the river rather than whether he should call it. Check/call seems better than bet/fold and bet/call.

[cbboy]

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i dont know who GP is

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GP = Green Plastic AKA Taylor Caby.