strangely played hand vs daut44

[ipokeder]

my stats on him (most from a long time ago) are 18.6/14.0/2.34 over 7700 hands. i used to talk with him a lot about poker but not so much anymore so i'm not sure how good he is, but fromw hat i've seen of him at the tables he's really easy to play against and basically never gets out of line, though he is fairly capable of handreading.

given that, i was absolutely sure that he had a big hand on the turn. MBOE is 26.4/11.3/2.54 and seems like a very uninteresting type of straightforward player. i didn't want to raise the flop because i figured if i got it all in here i'd be behind like always, either to a dominating draw or twopair+, and if somebody had an underflush draw i had the chance of stacking them. bad rationale?

PokerStars Game #123456789: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/09/15 - 15:05:50 (ET)
Table 'Naos' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Schnappi69 ($497.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Daut44 ($597 in chips)
Seat 5: MBOE ($910.25 in chips)
Seat 6: ipokeder ($700.35 in chips)
ipokeder: posts small blind $3
Schnappi69: posts big blind $6
Doughdebase: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ipokeder [Qc Tc]
Daut44: raises $12 to $18
MBOE: calls $18
ipokeder: calls $15
Schnappi69: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 9c 8c]
ipokeder: checks
Daut44: bets $42
MBOE: calls $42
ipokeder: calls $42
*** TURN *** [6h 9c 8c] [2c]
ipokeder: checks
Daut44: bets $106
MBOE: folds
ipokeder: calls $106
*** RIVER *** [6h 9c 8c 2c] [4d]
ipokeder: checks
Daut44: bets $431 and is all-in
ipokeder: calls $431

oh, and i took a long time to call the turn (wore down my bank a little, wasn't really intentional i'm just stoned so i can't multitable very well)

and obv i was c/fing a paired river

[donkeykong2]

i would checkraise push the flop, i dont think he calls with just the nutflush draw and overs.

and despite the big draw, the only real money card is probably the j if you call.

[AAismyfriend]

I really liked how you played this. This seems like one of those spots where his value betting range>his calling shove range.

[AAismyfriend]

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i would checkraise push the flop, i dont think he calls with just the nutflush draw and overs.

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You think he folds the NFD+overs if OP c/rs flop? nobody does that.

[nuggetz87]

seems fine.

not sure about folding the river when the board pairs though. you just went check check check with a q high flush. yeah his turn bet 3 ways is scary but i think there's plenty you're ahead of.

[freeucm]

Yeah nice line always works out it seems to check the river without a flush hand, did this time he have a weaker flush I hope?

[yoshi86]

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seems fine.

not sure about folding the river when the board pairs though. you just went check check check with a q high flush. yeah his turn bet 3 ways is scary but i think there's plenty you're ahead of.

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the board didnt pair so a call is even more standard

[nuggetz87]

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seems fine.

not sure about folding the river when the board pairs though. you just went check check check with a q high flush. yeah his turn bet 3 ways is scary but i think there's plenty you're ahead of.

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the board didnt pair so a call is even more standard

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yeah i know but he said in OP he was "obv" folding if the river paired the board.

[sauce123]

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I really liked how you played this. This seems like one of those spots where his value betting range>his calling shove range.

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yea nh

[Eagles]

I just c/r the flop with all that dead inb there.