FAO MH - re: Melchiades

[Yeti]

hey,

it seems you perm banned melchiades earlier :

"He admitted he created account welcome2theparty to spam Party r/b by pm because he was warned on this account. This is totally unacceptable on many levels. I have copy of the AIM conversation. Banned. MH/080807."

seems to be some sort of mixup here, i'm not entirely sure what has happened. melch claims :

1) he was spammed by welcome2theparty
2) melch isn't even an affil (he actually pm'ed welcome for details)

he really doesn't seem like the kind of guy to lie.

the ip addresses also dont match. no idea what AIM convo this is. melch's SN is AlltidIVater fwiw.

i unbanned him.

[Mike Haven]

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i unbanned him.

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After all the discussions in this forum about this type of action, I have to say I am absolutely amazed to read this, whatever the underlying circumstances. (I have not received a PM from you.)

In fact, I have just given the full reasons for the ban in the other current thread.

[Yeti]

yes, i figured i would take flak for this. i was also 99.9% sure that the ban was a big misunderstanding.

i tried to find your AIM but no one had it. my making this thread was comparable to a PM, no?

[Yeti]

also one reason i unbanned him was so he could link me to welcome2theparty's profile so i could compare ip addresses. i couldn't find his profile by other means.

[Mat Sklansky]

Sometimes, for the sake of order, it is important that a spammer or poster of perversion be banned as quickly as possible. And in these instances the first moderator to witness the horror should extinguish the monstrosity without regard to boundaries.

However, I can think of no situation where it may be an emergency that any poster, no matter how innocent or popular, be unbanned "asap" without consulting the person who struck the blow.

Yeti, I don't doubt your good intentions in this matter, but let's not step on each other's toes in this way. Please. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[durron597]

Who's right notwithstanding, my biggest problem here is this:

there should be 2 notes here, one from mike haven for the original ban and one from yeti saying that he unbanned him and why. however, there are no notes at all. what gives guys?

[Yeti]

alright, sorry mat.

durron, i removed the notes. why should notes of an erroneous ban remain in someones profile? it makes no sense.

[Mike Haven]

JFC.

Not only did you unban another mod's ban, but you also deleted another mod's Notes?

JFC.

[Yeti]

if only someone were capable of giving me a reason why that actually matters!

[Yeti]

btw your initial ban seems pretty ridiculous. if someone messages me a chat log akin to this :

IDIOT : HAY YOU WANT PARTY RB?
guy : er who is this
IDIOT : DIABLO THIS IS MAH RB ACCOUNT

then i'm not gonna go instantly ban diablo. ok, melch isn't a forum celebrity but you could have at least checked ip addresses (my apologies if, like me, you couldn't find welcome2theparty's account).