$27-TT-bubble

[ADLinden]

I was going to push over first raise but now with re-raise i fold right?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
(Ante: t25)
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2745
Button: t2335
SB: t6910
Hero: t1510

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t400</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t4400</font>, Hero

[ShipIt77]

shove. sb could be doing this with any two, you're short stacked and you're getting good odds.

[RexWoo]

ShipIt : if we call then button should probably call with a lot of hands and if he realize that then the call sucks, no ?

[ryanghall]

Easy shove IMO

Ryan

[darom03]

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Easy shove IMO

Ryan

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Ryan, do you really think it should suffice to just say "Easy shove IMO"?

This board have been in decline for a long time, and it is posts like this that contributes to it.

For the record, this is a bit more complex than just saying fold og call.

First of all, you have to put initial opener on a very wide range of at least 25% and he even has to lay his hand down a good portion of the time when facing a raise.

Secondly the SB must raise with at least 40% of his hands to make this a marginal call. That is definitely possible if the SB knows how to play correct bubble play, but more often than not you find that his raise range is not near 40%.

Personally I fold here, but if I have a good read that they are both very loose, it could be an "easy shove IMO", as Ryan so eloquently put it.

[RexWoo]

For the record I like the call.

Button should be on a large range and SB might be on any two.

But :
if SB has been pwning, then button could have tighten his range and might realize that (I think ?) a call with AJo KQ kind of hand is not bad now that you are all in as he only need to beat one of you.

[ChipLeader]

Very tough spot. On the one hand, you are short but still have plenty of FE, especially against the two mid-stacks. Also, there is always the chance button calls and wins, putting you ITM with no risk.

However, if button folds youre now pushing many hands, and we can only hope you get a couple as good as TT. Still, TT looks a lot better when youre not the one calling.

I think SB is 99+, AJs+, AQo+, with slightly less credit for AA as he would probably raise here instead of push (though the obvious raise is becoming less and less standard.) To me, this looks the most like AK/JJ/QQ, unless you have a reason to think he would be pushing lower pairs i think this is a clear fold.

AK/QQ+ i insta call, JJ i think long and hard, TT i generally fold.

[darom03]

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For the record I like the call.

Button should be on a large range and SB might be on any two.

But :
if SB has been pwning, then button could have tighten his range and might realize that (I think ?) a call with AJo KQ kind of hand is not bad now that you are all in as he only need to beat one of you.

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As a generel rule, you have to put the button on a tight range, no?

Why else would he lead out against the chipleader with blinds only at 100/200?

Any way, it is very read dependent, and if you can't supply us with reads, then we can't really help you further with your decision than these generic advices.

[tercet]

If Button is donk that will min raise snap call all in with ace x just fold. But yet again, if SB is regular who likes abusing bubble, I snap call.

[sharkstevie]

With 1510 in your stack i generally like to get the money in 1st instead of calling off your stack, but TT here with good odds against a coinflip which your most likely up against... I call and gamble in most spots like this, probably a leak in my game though