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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why did you raise the turn? [/ QUOTE ] I raised the turn because I thought this turn bet means a big hand approximately never. I am pretty much raising the turn for value as I think some draws call but maybe A9, K9 and 1010 fold. [/ QUOTE ] How can you possibly call his 3bet if you are certain he is putting you on QQ+ and SHOVING ANYWAY? [/ QUOTE ] I should have been more explicit. If I think he thinks he can get me to fold QQ+, I can call this. Given my image, this is a possibility. What range do people put the BB guy on given his line? [/ QUOTE ] So wait, you are raising the turn as a value-bluff, correct? If this is the case, he shoves on you anyways, unless the guy has a big history of instacalling as a move with huge hands, I can't really see him having a 7 here. That said, he has to have at least some part of the board. Maybe 109, something like that. However, I think his true range is 56, 58, 68, 109, 98, 9x, 810, and some 7s thrown in there. He almost never will have an overpair. I really dislike your turn raise as a value-bluff, but if I raise this turn I'm calling a push. dlpnyc21 |
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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
call. he obviously has a draw. why would he c/c flop then bet/push turn with a big hand?
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call. he obviously has a draw. why would he c/c flop then bet/push turn with a big hand? [/ QUOTE ] <3 twp |
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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
Why would you even consider calling here? This is never good against a Vegas nit. Actually, I know why you'd consider it; these people sort of look like they know what they're doing, so it seems like they're capable of loosening up or running a bluff. In reality, they are ultra-conservative and ultra-weak.
It's easy to tell yourself, "I've raised 20 pots in a row, so they're probably gonna loosen up against me"--NOPE. or, "He's kinda bored, and knows I can lay down a big hand, so maybe he'll run a bluff here"--NEVER. Unless he's a total anomaly in that scene, he's got 7s full here or something similar. |
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Why would you even consider calling here? This is never good against a Vegas nit. Actually, I know why you'd consider it; these people sort of look like they know what they're doing, so it seems like they're capable of loosening up or running a bluff. In reality, they are ultra-conservative and ultra-weak. It's easy to tell yourself, "I've raised 20 pots in a row, so they're probably gonna loosen up against me"--NOPE. or, "He's kinda bored, and knows I can lay down a big hand, so maybe he'll run a bluff here"--NEVER. Unless he's a total anomaly in that scene, he's got 7s full here or something similar. [/ QUOTE ] u didn't comment on how bad his turn value-bluff is... |
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Why would you even consider calling here? This is never good against a Vegas nit. Actually, I know why you'd consider it; these people sort of look like they know what they're doing, so it seems like they're capable of loosening up or running a bluff. In reality, they are ultra-conservative and ultra-weak. It's easy to tell yourself, "I've raised 20 pots in a row, so they're probably gonna loosen up against me"--NOPE. or, "He's kinda bored, and knows I can lay down a big hand, so maybe he'll run a bluff here"--NEVER. Unless he's a total anomaly in that scene, he's got 7s full here or something similar. [/ QUOTE ] Super spot on IMO. Everytime i talk myself into believing that most ppl are capable of bluffing in spots like this im always dissapointed and lighter on cash. |
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It's easy to tell yourself, "I've raised 20 pots in a row, so they're probably gonna loosen up against me"--NOPE. or, "He's kinda bored, and knows I can lay down a big hand, so maybe he'll run a bluff here"--NEVER. [/ QUOTE ] QFT...bastards |
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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
omg plz fold
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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
i will not take anyone seriously who uses the term value bluff
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Re: Live 10-25 at the Rio- I dont like folding
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value bluff [/ QUOTE ] It's so horrible |
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