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03-22-2007, 12:47 AM
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Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
Early this morning the 100-200 gets 3 handed. I'm on the SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Grinder raises I call and young aggresive kid 3 bets on the BB, call, call.
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I bet kid folds Mike raises and I call. Turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I bet again, Grinder raises, I 3 bet fearing that he folds but to my surprise he 4 bets. What is the best play here? At this point he can have the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] a set or a complete bluff, Best way to extract more money? 
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#2
03-22-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
I'd 3bet preflop instantly. I'd 5bet the turn now but I've seen miz play absolutely horribly. If the board is right (i.e. you have 2nd nuts currently) I'd probably 5 bet and call down vs a 6bet but it's close.
Rob
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#3
03-22-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
Bet Again: If you call and then what check raise the river??
And hope he comes over again. Just fire at the monkey get at least another 2 bets out of him this way. If he has the 8h6h, whilst definately a hand he would play this way it's just a cooler. He has the Qh though and will just call you dowm.
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#4
03-22-2007, 02:26 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
I really want to call and bet/3 the river here as long as the board doesn't pair. If you 5 now then I don't see you winning much more money if he's drawing dead, unless he's just playing awful and hating money.
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#5
03-22-2007, 02:31 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
Qh on the river is damn scary, but i cant see it changing how you play it. You ultimately make the decision to call down on the turn, and the Qh just makes you feel a bit worse about it. From what ive seen (and heard from those who actively stalk him online at those stakes), I'd feel fine about putting in a 5th and 6th bet on the turn.
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#8
03-22-2007, 10:21 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
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god i dont get poker how can he have something besides the nuts or air here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I'm just going by how I've seen miz playing lately. He may play live a lot differently than he donks around when he plays 150/300 at Absolute, but there he's been playing ridiculously bad. Lots of weird spazzy bluffs and being completely unafraid to put in 4 bets with Q6o vs players who are calling him down 100% of the time sort of spazzy. Not quite maniacal, but trying to move people off of hands and also being unable to fold hands spazzy. Rob
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#9
03-22-2007, 10:22 AM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
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Call and bet/call the river. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, this is probably better than 5betting now vs miz. I retract my earlier answer to 5bet now.
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#10
03-22-2007, 12:18 PM
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Re: Bellagio 3 Handed Game Hand Against The Grinder
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Call and bet/call the river. [/ QUOTE ] Is the logic here just to induce an incorrect call with a set on the river because he can correctly call a 5-bet with that hand and might fold a Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to a 5-bet but will definitely call a river donk? If the board pairs, I would check/call instead, are you still bet/calling?
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