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Old 09-23-2007, 11:27 PM
PrimogenitoX PrimogenitoX is offline
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

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QFT

I'd fold QQ, too.

With KK and AA, I'd call.

I suppose I might fold KK if I had a long enough history with the guy that pushed to put him exactly on aces, but I wouldn't tell anybody about it.

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Well, I doubt even with those stats that his range is KK+..isn't it more like QQ+, AK and sometimes JJ and sommmmeeeetimes TT but only 5% of the time maybe?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

if you think his range is TT+ AK then its an obvious shove.

We think his range to reraise a tight ep raise + call is closer to QQ+ AK weighted toward KK+.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

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as a general rule, AK is more valuable preflop than QQ.

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can you elaborate a bit? I know that AK you can 4/bet and 4/bet shove easier than QQ, thereby increasing FE significantly, but against bad players, isn't QQ better to have since you're usually going to be like 80-20 vs a 50/50 drawing hand when you face the flop?
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

AK makes it significantly less likely that villain has AA/KK, and fares otherwise the same as QQ against most ranges.

I mean, sure, QQ is gonna dominate some hands that AK isn't, but in terms of being fourbetting value, AK gets more folds than QQ, and gets our money in good more often (by good i mean 45+% equity in the pot).
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