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09-08-2007, 11:19 PM
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[NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
Villain is a TAG regular (some people find him good, but I run very well vs him, so I don't know), like 20/16/2.5
That's the first time I play vs him for two or three months (I don't play often the night). PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($252.60) CO ($63.45) Button ($191) SB ($303.05) BB ($43) UTG ($679.85) Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>, Button calls $39. I 4 bets, because he is OTB and can reraise me light with position, and I don't want to play AK oop, that's suck. So, he called, he got probably QQ+/AKs (but KK+ more probably). What is my plan on : - Kxx, - Axx, - AKx, - Qxx, - JJx, - 6xx Just give up if I don't pair the board or got a big draw (3 spades, for example) ? Push any flop, regardless ? 
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#2
09-09-2007, 05:41 AM
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Re: [NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
I'd probably 4bet a tad more, but maybe this doesn't matter too much. I agree that his range is strongly tilted towards KK+ once he flat calls the bet.
I guess my standard line in spots like these is to check any flop. On flops like Txx you don't have any FE and can just c/f. And if the flop pairs you he will probably still be able to get away from hands you beat, so there's not too much value in betting the flop.
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#4
09-09-2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: [NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
OK, I think the best is just to check-call unimproved vs solid TAG if we don't hit something.
I was lucky, the board was 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I have shoved. Maybe I got little FE if he has KK red, and if he calls, I have some outs (FD, maybe aces).
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#7
09-09-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: [NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
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I shove all of them and 4b more weeee [/ QUOTE ] do you really see us folding out any better hands or getting value from worse hands on a 6xx board or a JJx board?
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#8
09-09-2007, 01:04 PM
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Re: [NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
I still push but thats because I hate folding.
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#9
09-09-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: [NL200] AKo 4 bets PF oop, and get called. Std ?
I 4bet to like 75 PF and have never seen a player cold-calling my 4bet with those effective stack sizes.
Anyway, I think villain never does this with AK and his range is probably KK+. I think the best option is to check every flop. Shoving is pretty pointless on missed flops because villain has you crushed AND he's never folding.
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