Lets Play along...I have Rockets and a Fish just led out??25nl

[Worm75]

Going to bed, will post further action tomorrow, so we can get the day crews vibes on the hand as well

[mvdgaag]

Calling this flop was not too bad for the reasons EMc explained, but it makes it hard to get the maximum out of this if we're ahead, that is the biggest reason to bet this flop IMO. We want weaker hands, including draws to call, because we're ahead and want to stack them.

Also: what if 6d comes and villain bets? Do we just fold? Just calling here might induce a bluff on these scarecards and it's not a bluff we can easily pick off here. Villain will think twice when we raised this flop before he attempts a bluff.

Raising to $9 and betting the rest on the river will get it all in still. Of course if he 3bets this turn we are giving him credit for a bigger hand than ours.

I like a flop bet more, because we can keep more weaker hands in when we don't have to raise this much on the turn to get it in on the river. If we raise this turn and are called it's a lot harder to put the rest in on the river. We are commited though and should. Those few bucks on the flop would make the rest of the hand play a lot easyer.


This makes me think about something else (no intention to hijack here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). Playing AA on the turn is actually easyer OOP. The hands we are ahead of will probably fold/call and the others might raise. While if we had position, she bets and we raise, we are being called by both some weaker hands and stronger hands, since it takes a huge hand to reraise for most villains.

[Worm75]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $31.40
BB: $17.95
UTG: $25.55
MP: $27.65
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $48.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, SB calls $6.75

River: ($22.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8.25</font>

Ok, I've raised the turn here, and he called down after a scare card popped. I realize I'm getting sick odds to call here, and this might just be a blocking bet(doubt it with this villain, but maybe), where do we see the best value, call/raise/fold???

[Lego05]

Gotta raise the flop.

As played call the river.

[Lurker.]

raise flop, raise turn, call river

[Rounder101]

no point on raising the river, call

[Worm75]

Thnks for the replies, villain had 87s, for flopped 2pair rivered boat...looking at the feedback, raising flop is probably best in most situations.

I was just thrown off by villain leading the flop, since he had generally played for a C/R type line with big hands so far.

[Grunch]

flop is a huge huge leak