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Old 07-15-2007, 07:20 AM
kamel kamel is offline
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Default 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

Just would like to get some hints, what should be standard in these hands, going All-In or Folding?

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PokerStars 50 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BB ($97.50) (19/15/oo/0) (26h)
SB ($44.10)
CO ($49.75)
BU ($49.25)
Hero ($127.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, CO calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $6.25, CO calls $6.25.

Flop: ($24.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $17</font>, CO calls $17, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $89.50 (All-In). Hero?? </font>


2) Here Villain is loose passive, I wouldn't ask it if he would be more aggressive, but that was the 2nd raise of him I've seen in more than 60 minutes from him.

PokerStars 50 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BB ($54.45)
MP ($101.50) (49/5/0.80/22) (83h)
SB ($45.25)
BU ($48.50)
Hero ($99)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls $0.25, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $1</font>, BB folds, MP calls $1, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $101 (All-In), Hero ???</font>

in 1) I gave Villain perhaps a range of AA,sometimes KK,sometimes a set,AK (most likely A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]),A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I gave the caller behind me any pair and perhaps some draws.
Given my equity against this range, it's an easy fold. Accurate?

in 2) I ran out of time when deciding what to do (it was a fast table [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]). Of course, having 4th nuts is nice and hard to believe he would play 22 or AQ with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] so hard overbetting the pot nearly 20x. So what range I could give here the villain. I guess, it should be a call. I guess, even still an easy one, right?

PS: I know, it might be better to raise it preflop; don't know why I didn't do that.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:25 AM
dimeetrees dimeetrees is offline
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

I think its worth a call preflop purely to set mine. The only think you beat is AQo and AKo postflop. 1010+ and AK/AQ of hearts is possible. The situation is wayyy too sticky after the flop bet, I fold to a flop check raise.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

hand 1: although villain´s af is very high i´m never calling here. he reraised preflop and seems fairly tag. he very likely has a higher overpair or might think that AK is teh nuts(not that likely though. against higher overpairs you are drawing to 2 outs and you are not that much of a favourite against an unimproved AK.
hand 2: I´m calling instantly. he has an af of 22 ?! wtf are you waiting for?
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:32 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

1: fold.
2: call.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

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An af of 22

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No that's his WTS-Quote, His aggression was &lt;1 and like said, it was the 2nd raise I've seen from him in just 1 hour, so I'm not sure, whether the aggression factor from PT, given 0.8 is correct. I guess, I imported the stats a lil' after he his raised again. IIRC PA had shown me at the time I had to make the decision an AF of 0.3.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

oh i see, my bad im still calling though. there is no way i´m folding
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: 2xGetting shoved on the flop, 1x with overpair, 1xWith Trips; deep

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1: fold.
2: call.

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Even with a PFR of 5 he raises AQ and probably KQ as well. So easy call.
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