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Old 11-17-2007, 04:13 PM
flopton flopton is offline
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Default ($27) 88 vs a raiser, shove or fold?

Villain has been raising from early and middle position frequently, he raised 3x from the CO and hit KQ to get the chips. Also just raised last UTG to 3xBB at 75/150, and has been very loose/aggressive. What kind of raising/calling ranges would you put him on?

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2100
UTG+1: t4640
CO: t1115
Hero: t1775
SB: t1370
BB: t2500

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t600</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ?</font>
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 vs a raiser, shove or fold?

against someone who is really lagging it up, I think shoving with very little FE is reasonable.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 vs a raiser, shove or fold?

it seems based on your description that you can do this with 88 for value (aka dont have and dont need the FE)
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 vs a raiser, shove or fold?

I don't think you'd have FE if you shove, he will be getting more than 1 to 2 on his part. I say 88 is pretty close but is beating his range. just shove and embrace the variance
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:54 PM
jmill2511 jmill2511 is offline
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Default Re: ($27) 88 vs a raiser, shove or fold?

Yea dont mind a shove here based on your description, but his calling range is going to be pretty much his raising range, you have little to no FE.
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