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check/call 1 8.33%
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  #2261  
Old 11-04-2007, 11:25 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default $25 JJ on low board vs aggression

Did I play this hand correctly?

CO is 21/12/2/33hnds
Btn 79/6/0/34hnds

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($5.50)
CO ($23.30)
Button ($37.10)
SB ($6.50)
BB ($9.75)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($41.95)
Hero ($26.35)
MP2 ($17.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, Button calls $3, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $4</font>, Button calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($21.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: ($21.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button folds.

Final Pot: $21.35
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:30 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $25 top/bottom 2 pair

how did I play this hand? ok to build a big pot here?

villain is 79/6/0/34hnds

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($24.75)
UTG ($36.30)
UTG+1 ($38.25)
MP1 ($5.55)
MP2 ($8.70)
MP3 ($23.50)
CO ($42.90)
Hero ($24.65)
SB ($4.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP2 folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($4.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls $3.

Turn: ($12.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG+1 calls $9.

River: ($30.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $10</font>, Hero calls $9.90 (All-In).

Final Pot: $50.15
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: $25 top/bottom 2 pair

Dr. J,

AT hand is good. I'm real happy raising the flop and betting the turn like that. I'm not thrilled when 79/6 bets the river, but you still have to call.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: $25 top/bottom 2 pair

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($147.50)
MP ($116.05)
Button ($243.55)
SB ($252.80)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $19.

Turn: ($65.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $211.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.


villain is a huge lagtard, running at like 30/22 or something. he's been playing back at me a lot, he's squeezed a couple times, always to absurd amounts like a $5 raise to $45.

my plan was to c/r the turn,then he shoved pretty quickly.

i don't really know what to think about this open shove
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: $25 top/bottom 2 pair

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($147.50)
MP ($116.05)
Button ($243.55)
SB ($252.80)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $19.

Turn: ($65.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $211.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.


villain is a huge lagtard, running at like 30/22 or something. he's been playing back at me a lot, he's squeezed a couple times, always to absurd amounts like a $5 raise to $45.

my plan was to c/r the turn,then he shoved pretty quickly.

i don't really know what to think about this open shove

[/ QUOTE ]

A lot of what LAGtards think they're doing by playing like jackasses is "setting up" a big value overbet like that. When people pay them off, it works. I usually fold there but I don't really feel good about it.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Same Villain from the previous hand I posted.

19/16/2.9
CR: 1.5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $442.10
UTG+1: $243.45
Hero: $280
Button: $220.05
SB: $228.20
BB: $226.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($47, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($47, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, UTG calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($107, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $72</font>, Hero folds
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

slim: 3betting is pretty miserable here with 77. call and go for a raise of a cbet on a dry board, ideally hitting a set and stacking an overpair.

as played i like betting the flop then shutting down.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: $25 top/bottom 2 pair

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($147.50)
MP ($116.05)
Button ($243.55)
SB ($252.80)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $19.

Turn: ($65.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $211.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.


villain is a huge lagtard, running at like 30/22 or something. he's been playing back at me a lot, he's squeezed a couple times, always to absurd amounts like a $5 raise to $45.

my plan was to c/r the turn,then he shoved pretty quickly.

i don't really know what to think about this open shove

[/ QUOTE ]

A lot of what LAGtards think they're doing by playing like jackasses is "setting up" a big value overbet like that. When people pay them off, it works. I usually fold there but I don't really feel good about it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am one of those idiots that pays that off. Is a huge over bet like that more often than not the nuts???
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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slim: 3betting is pretty miserable here with 77. call and go for a raise of a cbet on a dry board, ideally hitting a set and stacking an overpair.

as played i like betting the flop then shutting down.

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Why is the 3-bet so terrible, other than because I'm going to [censored] up the hand anyway? His UTG and UTG+1 raise hands so far: A4s, QJo, 76s, 54s.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villain: 63/22/2.5 over 66 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $218.65
UTG+1: $325.95
Hero: $197
Button: $322.20
SB: $298.25
BB: $422.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($63, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($63, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero folds.

EDIT: I'm playing to get all-in on a blank turn.
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